2:45揚升時間線/終結冠狀病毒冥想的重要性。在這次採訪中，他們討論了冠狀病毒、財務狀況、提升等等，包括2020年4月4日/5日揚升時間線/終結冠狀病毒冥想的重要性。
Sisterhood of the Rose organized a recent interview with Cobra about the importance of the upcoming Ascension Timeline/End of Coronavirus Meditation on April 5th at 2:45 AM UTC.In this interview，they discuss the coronavirus，financial situation，ascension，and much more，including the importance of the Ascension Timeline/End of the Coronavirus meditation on April 4th/5th，2020.
以下是本次採訪的錄音和文字記錄。
Below is the recording and transcript of this interview.
以下是薔薇聖女團Youtube頻道的採訪錄音:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeK6mwDS9Oo
Here is the recording of the interview on Sisterhood of the Rose's Youtube channel:
以下是採訪記錄:
Here is the transcript of the interview:
—Beginning of transcript—
—文字記錄開始—
Debra:嗨，我叫黛布拉，我是美國薔薇聖女團的組長。今天，我有幸再次與Cobra交談，他是抵抗運動的主要情報提供者，在他的部落格上，他提供了重要的行星和銀河信息2012portal.blogspot.com。歡迎Cobra，感謝你接受這次採訪！
Debra:Hi，my name is Debra and I'm a Sisterhood of the Rose group leader in the United States.Today I have the pleasure of speaking again with Cobra，who is the chief intel provider for the Resistance Movement，where he offers important planetary and galactic information at his blog2012portal.blogspot.com.Welcome Cobra，and thank you for doing this interview!
柯博拉:謝謝你的邀請。 Cobra:Thank you for the invitation.
Debra:柯博拉，如你所知，薔薇聖女團的使命是在這個末日瘋狂(你們這樣稱呼它)期間，以及事件發生期間和之後，為人類提供舒適、和諧與和平。目前，人類對最近的冠狀病毒流行感到擔憂，甚至恐慌，因為有太多的不確定性和未知性。我們知道現在很多事情都不確定，但我們這次採訪的目的是為了收集經常被問到的問題的答案，以幫助緩解人們頭腦中的一些不確定性和緊張情緒。我們想和你們討論即將到來的揚升時間線/結束冠狀病毒冥想的重要性(取決於時區)，以消除冠狀病毒—以及它所引起的恐懼—這樣我們就可以把行星進化回到最積極的揚升時間線。
Debra:Cobra，as you know，the mission of Sisterhood of the Rose is to offer humanity comfort，harmony，and peace during this end time madness(as you've called it)，as well as during and after the Event.Currently，humanity is concerned，even panicked，over the recent coronavirus pandemic because so much is uncertain and unknown.We understand that much IS uncertain right now，but our intent with this interview is to gather answers to often-asked questions to help ease some of the uncertainties and tensions in people's minds.We would like to discuss with you the importance of the upcoming Ascension Timeline/End of Coronavirus Meditation on April4or 5(depending on time zones)to remove the coronavirus—and the fear it's causing—so we can shift the planetary evolution back into the most positive Ascension timeline.
Debra:我收集了很多問題，也收到了世界各地薔薇聖女團的很多問題，所以我們今天有很多問題要討論！讓我們先談談冠狀病毒正在發生什麼，因為對於這場流行病的議程似乎有很多困惑。正如我們所理解的和你們所指出的，它最初是作為黑暗勢力的邪惡計劃發起的，目的是迫使含有生物芯片的疫苗控制地表人口，這將為5G的發佈、數字貨幣、社會信用評分和自我隔離的全球新世界秩序的反烏托邦鋪路—我知道你後來告訴我們，抵抗組織能夠摧毀這些生物芯片，但疫苗仍然可能含有危險的化學物質。但是現在許多人猜測，這個議程已經被光明勢力接管，允許這段時間的隔離、旅行禁令和關閉，以便最後一次嘗試假旗事件不會發生，他們正在利用這段時間做幕後工作(比如潛在的大規模逮捕)，為這個事件鋪路。柯博拉，到底是怎麼回事？雙方是否都在利用這場大流行病為自己謀利？
Debra:I've put together quite a few questions，as well as received many questions from Sisterhood of the Rose groups around the world，so we have much to discuss today!Let's start with talking about what is going on with the coronavirus as there seems to be much confusion as to the agenda of this pandemic.As we understand it and you have indicated，it was initially launched as a nefarious plan of the dark in order to force vaccines that contain biochips to control the surface population that would pave the way for the release of 5G，digital currency，social credit scores，and a self-quarantine global New World Order dystopia–and I know you shared with us later that the Resistance was able to destroy these biochips but that the vaccines still could contain dangerous chemicals.But many people are now speculating that this agenda has been taken over by the Light Forces to allow this time of quarantines，travel bans，and closings so that last-attempt false flag events cannot happen and that they are using this time to do behind-the-scenes work(like potential mass arrests)to pave the way for the Event.So，Cobra，what exactly IS going on?Are both sides using this pandemic to their advantage?
柯博拉:黑暗勢力在幾個月前已經初始化了這場流行病，正如你所說的促進反烏托邦的新世界秩序社會。現在光力量正在利用這種情況，特別是全球大規模隔離的情況，來推進他們的事件計劃。事實上，這種隔離狀態對於光明勢力來說是一個很好的機會來評估地表人類的行為，並且創造出更好的模組模型來模擬當事件發生時地表人類將如何反應。因此，他們現在正在收集寶貴的、有價值的情報，這將使事件操作變得更加容易，當它真正發生時。
Cobra:The dark forces have initialized this pandemic a few months ago as you have said to promote dystopian New World Order society.Now the lights forces are using the situation，especially the situation of global mass quarantines，to further their plans for the Event.Actually，this quarantine situation is a great opportunity for the Light Forces to evaluate the behavior of the surface population and to create much better module models of how the surface population will react when the Event happens.So they are gathering precious，valuable intel right now which will make the Event operation much，much easier when it really happens.
Debra:嗨，我叫黛布拉，我是美國薔薇聖女團的組長。今天，我有幸再次與Cobra交談，他是抵抗運動的主要情報提供者，在他的部落格上，他提供了重要的行星和銀河信息2012portal.blogspot.com。歡迎Cobra，感謝你接受這次採訪！
Debra:Hi，my name is Debra and I'm a Sisterhood of the Rose group leader in the United States.Today I have the pleasure of speaking again with Cobra，who is the chief intel provider for the Resistance Movement，where he offers important planetary and galactic information at his blog2012portal.blogspot.com.Welcome Cobra，and thank you for doing this interview!
柯博拉:謝謝你的邀請。 Cobra:Thank you for the invitation.
Debra:柯博拉，如你所知，薔薇聖女團的使命是在這個末日瘋狂(你們這樣稱呼它)期間，以及事件發生期間和之後，為人類提供舒適、和諧與和平。目前，人類對最近的冠狀病毒流行感到擔憂，甚至恐慌，因為有太多的不確定性和未知性。我們知道現在很多事情都不確定，但我們這次採訪的目的是為了收集經常被問到的問題的答案，以幫助緩解人們頭腦中的一些不確定性和緊張情緒。我們想和你們討論即將到來的揚升時間線/結束冠狀病毒冥想的重要性(取決於時區)，以消除冠狀病毒—以及它所引起的恐懼—這樣我們就可以把行星進化回到最積極的揚升時間線。
Debra:Cobra，as you know，the mission of Sisterhood of the Rose is to offer humanity comfort，harmony，and peace during this end time madness(as you've called it)，as well as during and after the Event.Currently，humanity is concerned，even panicked，over the recent coronavirus pandemic because so much is uncertain and unknown.We understand that much IS uncertain right now，but our intent with this interview is to gather answers to often-asked questions to help ease some of the uncertainties and tensions in people's minds.We would like to discuss with you the importance of the upcoming Ascension Timeline/End of Coronavirus Meditation on April4or 5(depending on time zones)to remove the coronavirus—and the fear it's causing—so we can shift the planetary evolution back into the most positive Ascension timeline.
Debra:我收集了很多問題，也收到了世界各地薔薇聖女團的很多問題，所以我們今天有很多問題要討論！讓我們先談談冠狀病毒正在發生什麼，因為對於這場流行病的議程似乎有很多困惑。正如我們所理解的和你們所指出的，它最初是作為黑暗勢力的邪惡計劃發起的，目的是迫使含有生物芯片的疫苗控制地表人口，這將為5G的發佈、數字貨幣、社會信用評分和自我隔離的全球新世界秩序的反烏托邦鋪路—我知道你後來告訴我們，抵抗組織能夠摧毀這些生物芯片，但疫苗仍然可能含有危險的化學物質。但是現在許多人猜測，這個議程已經被光明勢力接管，允許這段時間的隔離、旅行禁令和關閉，以便最後一次嘗試假旗事件不會發生，他們正在利用這段時間做幕後工作(比如潛在的大規模逮捕)，為這個事件鋪路。柯博拉，到底是怎麼回事？雙方是否都在利用這場大流行病為自己謀利？
Debra:I've put together quite a few questions，as well as received many questions from Sisterhood of the Rose groups around the world，so we have much to discuss today!Let's start with talking about what is going on with the coronavirus as there seems to be much confusion as to the agenda of this pandemic.As we understand it and you have indicated，it was initially launched as a nefarious plan of the dark in order to force vaccines that contain biochips to control the surface population that would pave the way for the release of 5G，digital currency，social credit scores，and a self-quarantine global New World Order dystopia–and I know you shared with us later that the Resistance was able to destroy these biochips but that the vaccines still could contain dangerous chemicals.But many people are now speculating that this agenda has been taken over by the Light Forces to allow this time of quarantines，travel bans，and closings so that last-attempt false flag events cannot happen and that they are using this time to do behind-the-scenes work(like potential mass arrests)to pave the way for the Event.So，Cobra，what exactly IS going on?Are both sides using this pandemic to their advantage?
柯博拉:黑暗勢力在幾個月前已經初始化了這場流行病，正如你所說的促進反烏托邦的新世界秩序社會。現在光力量正在利用這種情況，特別是全球大規模隔離的情況，來推進他們的事件計劃。事實上，這種隔離狀態對於光明勢力來說是一個很好的機會來評估地表人類的行為，並且創造出更好的模組模型來模擬當事件發生時地表人類將如何反應。因此，他們現在正在收集寶貴的、有價值的情報，這將使事件操作變得更加容易，當它真正發生時。
Cobra:The dark forces have initialized this pandemic a few months ago as you have said to promote dystopian New World Order society.Now the lights forces are using the situation，especially the situation of global mass quarantines，to further their plans for the Event.Actually，this quarantine situation is a great opportunity for the Light Forces to evaluate the behavior of the surface population and to create much better module models of how the surface population will react when the Event happens.So they are gathering precious，valuable intel right now which will make the Event operation much，much easier when it really happens.
Debra:當黑暗勢力釋放這種病毒作為生化武器時，他們有沒有想過光明勢力可能會利用這個機會在地球上進行淨化工作以為事件做準備？
Debra:Did the dark forces have any idea that when they released this virus as a bioweapon that the Light Forces might use this opportunity to do purification work on the planet in preparation for the Event?
柯博拉:他們的預期是這種病毒會更加危險，更加致命。他們針對的是一個大規模流行的情景，我估計是50億人感染，5000萬人死亡。這是他們的目標，這是他們行動的第一階段。第二階段將是地面社會的徹底崩潰，演變成"瘋狂麥斯"。這是他們的目標，他們的計劃。當然，這種情況沒有發生，也不會發生。
Cobra:Their expectation was for this virus to be much more dangerous，much more lethal.They were targeting a mass pandemic scenario where I would say5billion people infected and 50 million people dead.This was their goal;this was phase one of their operation.And phase two would be the total collapse of surface society into a"Mad Max"scenario.This was their goal，their plan.Of course，this did not happen，and it will not happen.
Debra:他們現在能做點什麼來阻止光明勢力在隔離期間所取得的積極進展嗎？
Debra:Can they do anything at this point to stop the positive progress that the Light Forces are making during these quarantines?
柯博拉:正在發生的是，整個冠狀病毒的流行狀況在某種程度上讓光明勢力感到驚訝。幾個月前，當黑暗勢力開始這項行動時，他們有一定的優勢，但是這種優勢越來越少了。所以現在的情況正在緩慢但是肯定地向有利於光明勢力的方向轉變。
Cobra:What is happening is this whole coronavirus pandemic situation was a surprise to a certain degree for the Light Forces.Dark forces had certain advantages few months ago when they started with this operation，but this advantage is getting less and less and less.So situation is now turning slowly but surely in the favor of the Light Forces.
Debra:好的，很好。如果美國或者其他任何國家宣佈戒嚴，是否會由積極的軍方來實施，以便開始大規模的逮捕？或者這樣做是為了增加更多的恐懼？現在我們看到戒嚴令的可能性有多大？
Debra:OK，good.If martial law is declared in the USA，or any country，would this be done by the positive military so that mass arrests could begin?Or would this be done by the dark to increase more fear?And how likely is it that we'll see martial law at this point?
柯博拉:你需要明白，光明派系和黑暗派系在每個國家都佔據著同樣的政府結構。因此，如果或當某個國家宣佈戒嚴法，兩個派別將發揮他們的力量掌控情況。但我認為結果應該是正面的。在這一點上，我並不期待任何極端的新世界秩序場景。這一點已經過去了。幾個星期前我們處在一個危險的地方，但現在情況看起來好多了。
Cobra:You need to understand that in every country they are both light factions and dark factions occupying the same government structure in every country.So if or when martial law is declared in a certain country both factions will play out their scenarios.But I would say the outcome is expected to be positive.I'm not expecting any drastic New World Order scenarios at this point.This point has been passed already.We were in a dangerous place a few weeks ago，but now the situation is looking much better.
Debra:你能分享關於大規模逮捕的最新消息嗎？
Debra:Are you able to share any updates on the mass arrests?
Debra:Did the dark forces have any idea that when they released this virus as a bioweapon that the Light Forces might use this opportunity to do purification work on the planet in preparation for the Event?
柯博拉:他們的預期是這種病毒會更加危險，更加致命。他們針對的是一個大規模流行的情景，我估計是50億人感染，5000萬人死亡。這是他們的目標，這是他們行動的第一階段。第二階段將是地面社會的徹底崩潰，演變成"瘋狂麥斯"。這是他們的目標，他們的計劃。當然，這種情況沒有發生，也不會發生。
Cobra:Their expectation was for this virus to be much more dangerous，much more lethal.They were targeting a mass pandemic scenario where I would say5billion people infected and 50 million people dead.This was their goal;this was phase one of their operation.And phase two would be the total collapse of surface society into a"Mad Max"scenario.This was their goal，their plan.Of course，this did not happen，and it will not happen.
Debra:他們現在能做點什麼來阻止光明勢力在隔離期間所取得的積極進展嗎？
Debra:Can they do anything at this point to stop the positive progress that the Light Forces are making during these quarantines?
柯博拉:正在發生的是，整個冠狀病毒的流行狀況在某種程度上讓光明勢力感到驚訝。幾個月前，當黑暗勢力開始這項行動時，他們有一定的優勢，但是這種優勢越來越少了。所以現在的情況正在緩慢但是肯定地向有利於光明勢力的方向轉變。
Cobra:What is happening is this whole coronavirus pandemic situation was a surprise to a certain degree for the Light Forces.Dark forces had certain advantages few months ago when they started with this operation，but this advantage is getting less and less and less.So situation is now turning slowly but surely in the favor of the Light Forces.
Debra:好的，很好。如果美國或者其他任何國家宣佈戒嚴，是否會由積極的軍方來實施，以便開始大規模的逮捕？或者這樣做是為了增加更多的恐懼？現在我們看到戒嚴令的可能性有多大？
Debra:OK，good.If martial law is declared in the USA，or any country，would this be done by the positive military so that mass arrests could begin?Or would this be done by the dark to increase more fear?And how likely is it that we'll see martial law at this point?
柯博拉:你需要明白，光明派系和黑暗派系在每個國家都佔據著同樣的政府結構。因此，如果或當某個國家宣佈戒嚴法，兩個派別將發揮他們的力量掌控情況。但我認為結果應該是正面的。在這一點上，我並不期待任何極端的新世界秩序場景。這一點已經過去了。幾個星期前我們處在一個危險的地方，但現在情況看起來好多了。
Cobra:You need to understand that in every country they are both light factions and dark factions occupying the same government structure in every country.So if or when martial law is declared in a certain country both factions will play out their scenarios.But I would say the outcome is expected to be positive.I'm not expecting any drastic New World Order scenarios at this point.This point has been passed already.We were in a dangerous place a few weeks ago，but now the situation is looking much better.
Debra:你能分享關於大規模逮捕的最新消息嗎？
Debra:Are you able to share any updates on the mass arrests?
柯博拉:不，實際上所有的大規模逮捕計劃都是嚴格保密的。我只能評論其他人已經公佈的，我可以說說德雷克公佈的計劃，實際上是正面的軍事派別幾個星期前的計劃。我不能評論這個計劃是否有效，而且我還要說還有其他派系和其他團體參與其中，這只是一個可能發生的假設情景。我並不是說這會發生。
Cobra:No，actually all the plans of the mass arrest scenarios are strictly classified.I can only comment on what other people have released that I can say that the plan Drake has released is actually the plan that the positive military faction had a few weeks ago.I cannot comment on if that plan is valid or not，and also I would say there are other factions and other groups involved and that's just a hypothetical scenario that could possibly happen.I am not saying this would happen.
Cobra:No，actually all the plans of the mass arrest scenarios are strictly classified.I can only comment on what other people have released that I can say that the plan Drake has released is actually the plan that the positive military faction had a few weeks ago.I cannot comment on if that plan is valid or not，and also I would say there are other factions and other groups involved and that's just a hypothetical scenario that could possibly happen.I am not saying this would happen.
Debra:這種冠狀病毒顯然是真的，因為人們正在生病，甚至還有與之相關的死亡病例，但是像疾病預防控制中心和世界衛生組織這樣的組織發佈的新聞和數字是否準確，或者它們是否被誇大以製造恐慌？
Debra:The coronavirus is obviously real as people are getting sick and there are even deaths associated with it，but is there accuracy in the news and numbers that organizations like the CDC and WHO give out or are they being inflated to create fear?
Debra:The coronavirus is obviously real as people are getting sick and there are even deaths associated with it，but is there accuracy in the news and numbers that organizations like the CDC and WHO give out or are they being inflated to create fear?
柯博拉:再一次，有許多利益集團和許多派系有不同的動機和不同的議程在世界各地。一些派系和一些國家希望淡化病毒的影響，他們希望降低人數。一些派系甚至一些國家想讓情況變得更糟，所以人數不同，也不正確。但是近似正確的是曲線的形狀。從曲線的形狀，你可以推估將會發生什麼，目前大眾媒體公佈的估計大約有幾百萬人感染和幾十萬人死亡可能是相當正確的。
Cobra:Again，there are many interest groups and many factions with different motivations and different agendas throughout the world.Some of the factions and some countries want to downplay the impact of the virus，they want to lower the numbers.Some of the factions or even some of the countries want to make it even worse than it really is so the numbers are different and not correct.But what is approximately correct is the shape of the curve.From the shape of the curve you can sophistically estimate what will happen，and current estimation that were released in the mass media about few million people infected and a few hundred thousand people dead are probably quite correct.
Cobra:Again，there are many interest groups and many factions with different motivations and different agendas throughout the world.Some of the factions and some countries want to downplay the impact of the virus，they want to lower the numbers.Some of the factions or even some of the countries want to make it even worse than it really is so the numbers are different and not correct.But what is approximately correct is the shape of the curve.From the shape of the curve you can sophistically estimate what will happen，and current estimation that were released in the mass media about few million people infected and a few hundred thousand people dead are probably quite correct.
Debra:你提到過很多恐懼是由於在我們的能量場中共存的非物質實體，而光明勢力最近能做的事情之一就是清除等離子場中的這些實體，因為這些實體在隔離期間不能被傳送。如何餓死和防止這些實體的傳播？它們是通過人與人之間的身體接觸傳播的，是通過每天在情感和精神上相互交流傳播的，還是僅僅通過當我們靠近他人時我們的能量場重疊傳播的？
Debra:You've mentioned that much of the fear is due to non-physical entities co-existing in our energy fields，and that one of the things the Light Forces have been able to do recently is clear out these entities in the plasma fields because the entities are not able to be transmitted during the quarantines.How does isolating ourselves starve and prevent the spread of these entities?Are they transmitted by physical human contact，by emotionally and mentally dealing with each other on a daily basis，or simply by our energy fields overlapping when we are near others?
柯博拉:首先，好消息是所有的等離子體實體基本上都消失了。我們現在正在處理乙太和較低的星體實體，它們更容易處理。光明勢力正在利用這個地球上的隔離狀態，讓人們自我隔離成為一個極好的工具，以徹底加速所有這些實體的清除。其中一些實體已經在地球表面存在了數千年;一代跳到一代，從母親跳到孩子，然後又跳到孫子。正如你所說的那樣，由於社會距離的拉遠，人類的能量領域不再重疊，因此這些實體正在遭受飢餓。
Cobra:First，the good news is that all plasma entities are basically gone.We are now dealing with etheric and lower astral entities which are much easier to deal with.The Light Forces are using this quarantine status on the planet with people self-isolating as a wonderful tool to drastically accelerate the clearing of all those entities.Some of those entities have been around the surface of the planet for thousands of years;jumping from generation to generation，from mother to her children，and then to grandchildren.The same entity was possessing the family line for many centuries and now，as you have said，energy fields of people are not overlapping anymore because of social distancing so those entities are being starved.
這些實體需要互動，身體互動，接近其他實體感染的人以維持自己的存在。現在它們正在被餓死，在某種程度上，這些實體的傳播類似於病毒感染。它實際上是一種能量病毒，在25000年前感染了人類。不僅物理冠狀病毒正在被移除，而且所有這些實體和活躍的能量病毒也正在被移除，這將極大地改善人類的狀態。所以，儘管這種冠狀病毒並不是一個令人愉快的情況，有時候它可能是相當可怕的，但是從進化的角度來看，結果將是非常正面的。大部分(以恐懼、負面情緒為食的)舊執政官將會被餓死，當這些大規模隔離結束後就會消失。
They need interaction，physical interaction，physical proximity of other entity-infested people to sustain themselves，to maintain their presence.They're being starved out，and to a certain degree，the spread of those entities is similar to infection with a virus.It is actually a type of energy virus which has infected humanity 25，000 years ago.Not only the physical coronavirus is being removed，also all those entities and energetic viruses are being removed，which will drastically improve the state of humanity.So regardless of the fact that this coronavirus is not a pleasant situation，it can be quite scary sometimes，but the outcome will be dramatically positive from the evolutionary perspective.Much of the old archon infection will be simply starved out and will be gone when those mass quarantines are over.
Debra:這很有趣，也是非常好的消息。奇美拉使用的最後一道防線是啟動等離子體，在所有地表人類的體內植入頂夸克炸彈，這道防線又是怎樣的呢？在所有地表人類的植入物中是否都含有頂夸克炸彈？這種情況的影響是什麼，我們如何應對？我們能做些什麼來幫助移除這些嗎?或者只有光明勢力能做些什麼？
Debra:That's interesting and very good news too.What about the last line of defense the Chimera has used by activating the plasma that creates toplet bombs within the physical implants of all surface humans?Is there a toplet bomb in the implants of ALL surface population?What are the impacts of this and how can we deal with it?Is there anything we can do to help remove these or is something only the Light Forces can do?
柯博拉:是的，這是最後一道防線，我想說這是最後一道防線中最強的一道。它已經被啟動，這些植入物現在正在頂部產生旋轉黑洞。光明勢力正在非常有效地處理這個問題。每個人都可以做的，或者我可以說是最清醒的人都可以做的，就是清除植入物，尤其是大腦額葉的植入物。人們可以用紫色火焰清除這些植入物。可以使用我在會議上討論過的植入物清除協議。我上傳了一些影片。我已經發佈了指示。人們可以查閱會議記錄。有各種各樣的技術可以用來幫助人們溶解植入物，特別是一些主要的信念系統已經被植入。當然，這將有助於光明勢力溶解整個結構。
Cobra:Yes，this is the last line of defense，I would say the strongest among the last line of defense.It has been activated to the degree that those implants are now producing the toplets，producing rotating black holes.The Light Forces are dealing with this quite effectively.What everybody can do，or I would say the most awakened people can do，is to clear the implant，especially the ones in the frontal lobe of the brain.They can clear those implants with violet flame.They can use implant clearing protocols which I have discussed at my conferences.I have posted videos.I have posted instructions.People can check the notes from the conferences.There are various techniques people can use to help dissolve the implants，especially some of the primary belief systems which have been implanted.This will，of course，help the Light Forces in dissolving the whole structure.
植入物清除冥想：https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_x25yova5U
Debra:其中一個協議，就是那種"我是上帝，我不是上帝"的協議？
Debra:One of those protocols，is that doing the"I am God.I am not God"protocol?
柯博拉:沒錯。 Cobra:Exactly.
Debra:植入物的問題有多嚴重？
Debra:How serious is this situation with the implants?
柯博拉:這基本上是主要的情況，從伊甸園墮落，從天堂墮落。這就是將人類與源頭分離的機制。揚升過程實際上是一個移除植入物並與源頭重新連接的過程。
Cobra:It is basically the primary situation，the fall from Eden，the fall from paradise.This is the mechanism which has separated humanity from the Source.Ascension process is actually a process of removing the implants and reconnecting with the Source.
Debra:現在用這個啟動等離子體，在植入物內部製造頂夸克炸彈這有多嚴重？
Debra:What about now with this activating the plasma that creates toplet bombs within the implants—how serious is that?
柯博拉:實際上，這是一種非常先進的負量子技術，迄今為止，它阻止了光明勢力接近和移除植入物，但是現在，光明勢力，特別是在過去的幾年裡，正全力以赴地工作，專注於移除這些技術，他們相當成功，特別是在過去的幾個月裡，這種冠狀病毒給了他們更直接地接觸這些技術的機會。
Cobra:Actually it is a very advanced negative quantum technology which has until now prevented the Light Forces from accessing the implants and removing them，but now the Light Forces，especially in the last few years，were working specifically with total dedication and focus in removing those technologies and they are being quite successful，especially now in the last few months when this coronavirus has given them opportunities to access this more directly.
Debra:You've mentioned that much of the fear is due to non-physical entities co-existing in our energy fields，and that one of the things the Light Forces have been able to do recently is clear out these entities in the plasma fields because the entities are not able to be transmitted during the quarantines.How does isolating ourselves starve and prevent the spread of these entities?Are they transmitted by physical human contact，by emotionally and mentally dealing with each other on a daily basis，or simply by our energy fields overlapping when we are near others?
柯博拉:首先，好消息是所有的等離子體實體基本上都消失了。我們現在正在處理乙太和較低的星體實體，它們更容易處理。光明勢力正在利用這個地球上的隔離狀態，讓人們自我隔離成為一個極好的工具，以徹底加速所有這些實體的清除。其中一些實體已經在地球表面存在了數千年;一代跳到一代，從母親跳到孩子，然後又跳到孫子。正如你所說的那樣，由於社會距離的拉遠，人類的能量領域不再重疊，因此這些實體正在遭受飢餓。
Cobra:First，the good news is that all plasma entities are basically gone.We are now dealing with etheric and lower astral entities which are much easier to deal with.The Light Forces are using this quarantine status on the planet with people self-isolating as a wonderful tool to drastically accelerate the clearing of all those entities.Some of those entities have been around the surface of the planet for thousands of years;jumping from generation to generation，from mother to her children，and then to grandchildren.The same entity was possessing the family line for many centuries and now，as you have said，energy fields of people are not overlapping anymore because of social distancing so those entities are being starved.
這些實體需要互動，身體互動，接近其他實體感染的人以維持自己的存在。現在它們正在被餓死，在某種程度上，這些實體的傳播類似於病毒感染。它實際上是一種能量病毒，在25000年前感染了人類。不僅物理冠狀病毒正在被移除，而且所有這些實體和活躍的能量病毒也正在被移除，這將極大地改善人類的狀態。所以，儘管這種冠狀病毒並不是一個令人愉快的情況，有時候它可能是相當可怕的，但是從進化的角度來看，結果將是非常正面的。大部分(以恐懼、負面情緒為食的)舊執政官將會被餓死，當這些大規模隔離結束後就會消失。
They need interaction，physical interaction，physical proximity of other entity-infested people to sustain themselves，to maintain their presence.They're being starved out，and to a certain degree，the spread of those entities is similar to infection with a virus.It is actually a type of energy virus which has infected humanity 25，000 years ago.Not only the physical coronavirus is being removed，also all those entities and energetic viruses are being removed，which will drastically improve the state of humanity.So regardless of the fact that this coronavirus is not a pleasant situation，it can be quite scary sometimes，but the outcome will be dramatically positive from the evolutionary perspective.Much of the old archon infection will be simply starved out and will be gone when those mass quarantines are over.
Debra:這很有趣，也是非常好的消息。奇美拉使用的最後一道防線是啟動等離子體，在所有地表人類的體內植入頂夸克炸彈，這道防線又是怎樣的呢？在所有地表人類的植入物中是否都含有頂夸克炸彈？這種情況的影響是什麼，我們如何應對？我們能做些什麼來幫助移除這些嗎?或者只有光明勢力能做些什麼？
Debra:That's interesting and very good news too.What about the last line of defense the Chimera has used by activating the plasma that creates toplet bombs within the physical implants of all surface humans?Is there a toplet bomb in the implants of ALL surface population?What are the impacts of this and how can we deal with it?Is there anything we can do to help remove these or is something only the Light Forces can do?
柯博拉:是的，這是最後一道防線，我想說這是最後一道防線中最強的一道。它已經被啟動，這些植入物現在正在頂部產生旋轉黑洞。光明勢力正在非常有效地處理這個問題。每個人都可以做的，或者我可以說是最清醒的人都可以做的，就是清除植入物，尤其是大腦額葉的植入物。人們可以用紫色火焰清除這些植入物。可以使用我在會議上討論過的植入物清除協議。我上傳了一些影片。我已經發佈了指示。人們可以查閱會議記錄。有各種各樣的技術可以用來幫助人們溶解植入物，特別是一些主要的信念系統已經被植入。當然，這將有助於光明勢力溶解整個結構。
Cobra:Yes，this is the last line of defense，I would say the strongest among the last line of defense.It has been activated to the degree that those implants are now producing the toplets，producing rotating black holes.The Light Forces are dealing with this quite effectively.What everybody can do，or I would say the most awakened people can do，is to clear the implant，especially the ones in the frontal lobe of the brain.They can clear those implants with violet flame.They can use implant clearing protocols which I have discussed at my conferences.I have posted videos.I have posted instructions.People can check the notes from the conferences.There are various techniques people can use to help dissolve the implants，especially some of the primary belief systems which have been implanted.This will，of course，help the Light Forces in dissolving the whole structure.
植入物清除冥想：https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_x25yova5U
Debra:其中一個協議，就是那種"我是上帝，我不是上帝"的協議？
Debra:One of those protocols，is that doing the"I am God.I am not God"protocol?
柯博拉:沒錯。 Cobra:Exactly.
Debra:植入物的問題有多嚴重？
Debra:How serious is this situation with the implants?
柯博拉:這基本上是主要的情況，從伊甸園墮落，從天堂墮落。這就是將人類與源頭分離的機制。揚升過程實際上是一個移除植入物並與源頭重新連接的過程。
Cobra:It is basically the primary situation，the fall from Eden，the fall from paradise.This is the mechanism which has separated humanity from the Source.Ascension process is actually a process of removing the implants and reconnecting with the Source.
Debra:現在用這個啟動等離子體，在植入物內部製造頂夸克炸彈這有多嚴重？
Debra:What about now with this activating the plasma that creates toplet bombs within the implants—how serious is that?
柯博拉:實際上，這是一種非常先進的負量子技術，迄今為止，它阻止了光明勢力接近和移除植入物，但是現在，光明勢力，特別是在過去的幾年裡，正全力以赴地工作，專注於移除這些技術，他們相當成功，特別是在過去的幾個月裡，這種冠狀病毒給了他們更直接地接觸這些技術的機會。
Cobra:Actually it is a very advanced negative quantum technology which has until now prevented the Light Forces from accessing the implants and removing them，but now the Light Forces，especially in the last few years，were working specifically with total dedication and focus in removing those technologies and they are being quite successful，especially now in the last few months when this coronavirus has given them opportunities to access this more directly.
Debra:很好。在你最近的準備轉變採訪中，你提到有一場量子戰爭正在發生—你能解釋一下你所說的量子戰爭是什麼意思嗎？
Debra:Good.In your recent Prepare for Change interview，you mentioned that there is a quantum war taking place–can you explain what you mean by quantum war?
柯博拉:是的，在某種程度上，光明勢力擁有先進的技術可以移除植入物。他們正在處理頂夸克炸彈和其他量子技術。黑暗勢力，尤其是奇美拉群體和更先進的負面種族，也擁有某些先進的量子技術，用來抵制光明勢力的進展。這場戰爭在過去幾個月中達到了頂峰。現在這些地區的潮流正在慢慢轉向光明的勝利。
Cobra:Yes，to a certain degree，the Light Forces have advanced technologies with which they can remove the implants.They're dealing with the toplet bombs and with other quantum technologies.The dark forces also have，and had，especially the Chimera group and more advanced negative races，had certain advanced quantum technologies with which they were counteracting the progress of the Light Forces.This war has reached a peak in the last few months.Now the tide is turning slowly towards the victory of the light in those areas.
Debra:很好。冠狀恐慌是一個煙幕，一個干擾，對於這場量子戰爭，光明和黑暗的力量都不想讓地球表面的人知道嗎？
Debra:Very good.Is the corona panic a smokescreen，a distraction，for this quantum war that both the light and dark forces don't want the surface population to know about?
柯博拉:事實上，關於這場量子戰爭的情報已經出來了。對冠狀病毒的恐懼是真實存在的。它是由疾病所引發的，當然，這是被媒體操縱的。我想說，冠狀病毒大流行本身就是這場戰爭附帶損害的副作用。
Cobra:Actually，intel about this quantum war is out already.The fear of the coronavirus is real.It was triggered by the disease，and，of course，being manipulated by the mass media.The coronavirus pandemic itself is，I would say，a side effect of collateral damage of this war.
Debra:作為這場戰爭的結果，我們在未來可以看到哪些潛在的情景，正面的和負面的？
Debra:What are some potential scenarios we could see in the future as a result of this war，both positive and negative?
柯博拉:當然，黑暗勢力想要推動他們的新世界秩序議程。在過去的幾個星期裡，他們在這方面取得了一些有限的成功，但與此同時，光明勢力在消除非物質實體，消除負的量子技術方面取得了更大的成功。正如我所說，最有可能的情況是大約有幾百萬人感染，幾十萬人死亡，大規模隔離在一兩個月內結束。我不會進一步詳述光明勢力將會做什麼，以及他們將如何應對這種情況，因為這仍然是機密。
Cobra:Of course，dark forces want to promote their New World Order agenda.They had some limited success in this in the last few weeks，but at the same time the Light Forces have even greater successes in removing non-physical entities，removing negative quantum technology.As I have said，the most likely scenario is about a few million people infected，a few hundred thousand people dead，with mass quarantine ending in about a month or two.I would not go further in the details of what the Light Forces will do and how they'll respond to the situation because that's still classified.
Debra:好吧，那麼讓我們來討論一下我們如何在這個量子領域創造一個正面的時間線—你覺得我們即將到來的揚升時間線/結束冠狀病毒冥想是我們作為一個集體目前能夠做的最有力的事情來幫助地球上的形勢嗎？為什麼？
Debra:OK，so let's discuss how we can contribute towards creating a positive timeline in this quantum field–do you feel our upcoming Ascension Timeline/End of Coronavirus Meditation is the most powerful thing we can do right now as a collective to help the situation on planet Earth?Why is that?
木星、冥王星合相全球冥想活動（4/5(日)上午10:45）
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG9OdtCS4CI
柯博拉:是的，當然。如果我們在相干量子場中創造出一個類似雷射的聚焦信號，我們就可以改變量子漲落。因此，與足夠多人同時間進行集體冥想是我們能做的唯一最有效的事情。我們改變了量子泡沫。我們告訴整個地球的量子場未來是什麼樣的。我們實際上糾纏著量子場。我們把時間因素推向一個特定的方向。這是一個非常強大的力量。人們低估了集體冥想和集體決策的力量。我們真的可以改變歷史的進程。我們有一個劇本。我們有一定的奉獻精神。我們有一些人們可以想像的東西。我們將展示病毒的去除過程。我們將觀想我們想要創造的新的現實。如果達到臨界質量，我們肯定會朝那個方向轉變。
Cobra:Yes，of course.Mass meditation with people with a sufficiently large number of people meditating is the single most effective thing we can do because if we create a laser-like dedicated focused signal in the coherent quantum field，we change the quantum fluctuations.We change the quantum foam.We inform the quantum field of the whole planet what the future is.We actually entrain the quantum field.We push the timeline.We push the stream of the time factor in a certain direction.This is something that is extremely powerful.People underestimate the power of group meditation and power of group decision.We can literally change the course of history.We have a script.We have a certain dedication.We have certain things that people can visualize.We will visualize the removal of the virus.We will visualize the new reality that we would like to create.If the critical mass is reached，we will definitely shift things in that direction.
Debra:太好了！4月4/5日這次大眾冥想的時間安排在Jupiter-Pluto合相的時刻，這是今年13個重要的同步週期之一。你說過這將是寶瓶座時代真正強大的能量第一次撞擊地球表面。你能更詳細地解釋一下為什麼此時此刻進行冥想如此重要嗎？
Debra:Wonderful!The time of this mass meditation on April 4/5 is scheduled at the moment of the Jupiter-Pluto conjunction，which is one of 13 significant synodic cycles taking place this year.You've said this will be the first moment when a truly powerful energy of Age of Aquarius will hit the surface of the planet.Can you explain this in more detail and why doing the meditation at this moment is so important?
柯博拉:首先，我需要糾正這裡。現在發生的木星-冥王星合相還不是天文週期。這是從地球表面看到的木星與冥王星的合相。木星和冥王星合相的天文週期發生在7月31日，這時你將從太陽的中心看到木星和冥王星的合相。但是在4月4日和5日從地球上看到的這次實際的連接是一個非常強大的觸發器。這基本上是自1月11/12日我們最後一次集體冥想以來最強大的觸發器，這種能量有著光的突破的巨大潛力。在這個時刻，光明勢力可以帶頭，可以掌控...(聽不見)，他們可以真正開始指示在這個動態的情況下會發生什麼。
Cobra:First，I need to correct here.Jupiter Pluto conjunction happening now is not yet the synodic cycle.This Jupiter Pluto conjunction is seen from the surface of planet Earth.Synodic cycle of Jupiter and Pluto conjunction comes on July 31st;this is when you will see Jupiter Pluto conjunction from the center of the Sun.But this actual conjunction as seen from Earth on April 4th and 5th is a very powerful trigger.It is basically the most powerful trigger since January 11/12th when we had our last mass meditation，and this energy has a huge potential for a breakthrough of light.This is the moment where the Light Forces can take the lead，can take hold of[inaudible]，and they can actually start dictating what will happen in this dynamic situation.
Debra:是的，所以它非常重要。在六十年代早期，Garabandal的四姐妹收到了一個奇蹟的幻象，這個奇蹟將在復活節附近發生。有些人將其解釋為2020年4月銀河超級波的到來。這就是為什麼在Jupiter-Pluto會合的冥想如此重要的原因嗎？
Debra:Yes，so it's very critical.In the early sixties，four sisters at Garabandal received a vision of a miracle which would happen near Easter.Some have interpreted this as being the arrival of the galactic superwave as occurring in April 2020.Is this part of the reason this meditation at the Jupiter-Pluto conjunction is so important?
柯博拉:我想說，今年的復活節是另一個相當強大的能量入口。我不能評論那裡會發生什麼，也不能評論那時會發生什麼。但是我想說，銀河系超級波的時間還沒有確定到可以公開發佈的程度。
Cobra:I would say that Easter of this year is another quite powerful energy portal.I cannot comment on what will happen there or what might happen then.But I would say the timing of the galactic superwave is not yet determined to the degree that could be released publicly.
Debra:好的。通常我們這些全球冥想的目標是達到臨界質量—大約144000人—然而你已經說過，對於這個即將到來的冥想來說，我們的數量更高是很重要的，最好是100萬人左右。為什麼是這樣？
Debra:OK.Normally our goal for these global meditations is to achieve critical mass，which is around 144，000 people，however you have stated that it's important for this upcoming meditation that our numbers are higher，ideally around1million people.Why is this?
柯博拉:這是因為我們這次有一個絕佳的機會。我們冥想的後果可能會更加嚴重，因為我們現在在這個星球上的處境是以前從未發生過的。這不再是一切照舊了。人們對不尋常的解決方案更加開放。他們對聖靈更加開放。他們對更高的連接更加開放，因為許多人已經意識到過去的生活已經結束了。
Cobra:It is because we have an amazing opportunity this time.The consequences of our meditation can be far more outreaching because the situation we are now having on the planet is something that has never happened before.It is not business as usual anymore.People are more open for unusual solutions.They are more open to the Spirit.They are more open to the higher connection because many have realized that life as was is over.
Debra:144000人的臨界質量和100萬人的臨界質量之間的結果有什麼不同？
Debra:What would be the difference in outcome between a critical mass of 144000 and a critical mass of1million people participating?
柯博拉:例如，在我們上一次的冥想中已經達到了144000的臨界質量。我們已經設法保持了正面的時間線，但僅此而已。所以這就是為什麼從那時起到現在的情況就像是走在懸崖邊上。如果我們有一百萬人在一月份進行冥想，甚至很可能這場大流行病不會發生。我要說的是，在過去很多次，我們的行動阻止了類似的情況發生。這已經不是黑暗勢力第一次計劃這樣的事情了;通常每年大約會有兩種情況像這樣被阻止，甚至從來沒有進入大眾媒體。光明勢力甚至在它們發生之前就阻止了它們，有時我們的冥想就已經阻止了它。
Cobra:For example，in our last meditation had just about reached the critical mass of 144000.We have managed to keep the positive timeline but barely.So this is why the situation since then until now was like walking on the edge.If we had one million people meditating in January，most likely the pandemic would not even be able to be possible.I would say that many times in the past，our actions have prevented similar scenarios.This is not the first time the dark forces are planning something like this;usually each year on average about two situations are like these are prevented and never even come into the mass media.Light Forces are preventing them before they even happen and sometimes our meditations have prevented things like this.
Debra:我們3月22日的"助推器"冥想有助於提高我們4月4日/5日冥想成功的可能性嗎？
Debra:Did our"booster"meditation on March 22 help increase the likeliness of success for our April 4/5 meditation?
柯博拉:是的，當然有，它有。我們的預後相當好。我們希望我們能夠達到至少144000甚至100萬的臨界質量。我們將拭目以待。
Cobra:Yes，of course it has，it did.Our prognosis is quite good.We are hopeful that we can reach the critical mass of at least 144000 or even one million.We will see what will happen.
Debra:"社區團結"進行得怎麼樣了?領導者和他們的追隨者都加入進來了嗎？
Debra:How is the"Unity in the Community"going?Are leaders and their followers jumping on board to participate?
柯博拉:他們中的許多人是，甚至有些人我從來都沒有想到他們會加入，但有一些人，我會說，真的可以有所作為，但出於某些原因選擇不這樣做。基本上，我將能夠評論這個在事件之後。於此之前，我不想再多說了。
Cobra:Many of them are，even some I would never expect they would，but there are certain people who I would say could really make a difference and，for some reason，are choosing not to.Basically，I will be able to comment on this after the Event.Before that，I would refrain from saying more on that.
Debra:好的。有足夠多的人參加4月4日/5日的活動，我們就能為人類創造一個正面的時間線，這就是我們的目標。這個正面的時間線是什麼樣的？如果沒有足夠多的人參與進來，這是否意味著我們將繼續處於一個負面的時間線上，這看起來像什麼？
Debra:OK.With enough people participating on April 4/5，we can create a positive timeline for humanity，that is our goal.What does that positive timeline look like?And without enough people participating，does that mean we would stay on a course of a negative timeline，and what does that look like?
柯博拉:好吧，我們還在打仗。光明勢力正在做他們所能做的一切，而黑暗勢力也正在用他們的方式做他們所能做的一切。基本的正面時間線已經被確保，這意味著將會有事件，將會有揚升，將會有地球的解放。這是安全的，但我們希望我們的旅程盡可能順利，盡可能正面。通過達到臨界質量，我們將確保這一切變得容易得多。但是，我們又一次身處戰爭之中，而且還有意外發生，所以我不會對將要發生的事情做任何預測。我相信，如果我們達到臨界質量，我們的未來將更加光明，我們實現最終目標的道路將更加容易。
Cobra:OK，we are still in a war.Light Forces are doing whatever they can，and the dark forces are doing whatever they can in their one way.The basic positive timeline has been secured，so that means that there will be the Event，there will be Ascension，there will be the liberation of the planet.That is secure，but we would like to make our journey to that particular moment as smooth as possible，as positive as possible.By reaching the critical mass we will ensure that this goes much easier.But again，we are in the war and there are surprises so I will not make any predictions about what will happen.I am sure that if we reach the critical mass，our future will be much brighter and our way to the final goal will be much easier.
Debra:上次發生了什麼，我們在一月份的最後一次冥想中沒有確定一個積極的時間線嗎？是什麼導致了這種危害，冠狀病毒與此有關嗎？
Debra:What happened last time，didn't we secure a positive timeline in our last meditation in January?What caused this to be compromised，did the coronavirus have anything to do with that?
柯博拉:是的，我們確實確保了基本的正面時間線。我們正進入水瓶座的新時代，這個並沒有改變。發生的情況是，我們只到達臨界質量邊緣，所以雖然是達到，但還不夠多。另一件事是，在幕後發生了一些不太好的事情，有團隊被滲透，我的團隊裡也有嚴重滲透。光網絡的一部分被破壞了。還有一些其他情況沒有像我們所希望的那樣發展。此外，在過去的兩年裡，光明勢力正在採取一些非尋常的步驟，以使最清醒的地面行動光之工作者的某些方面為某些任務做好準備，而這項行動幾乎已經完全失敗了，所以在去年夏天就已經知道將會發生某種墜機事件。自去年8月以來，我就收到了有關金融危機的討論。提供的信息沒有足夠的時間來創造光之島。我沒有預料到會發生大規模的流行病，但是有情報顯示，我們需要為硬著陸做準備。這就是正在發生的事情。
Cobra:Yes，we did secure the basic positive timeline.We are going into the new Age of Aquarius，that had not changed.One thing that happened was that we had barely reached a critical mass，so it was enough，but barely enough.And the other thing is that there were certain things happening behind the scenes which were not very good，there were infiltration in teams，also in my team there was serious infiltration.Parts of the light network were compromised.Also there were some other situations which were not developing as we have hoped they would.Also，in the last two years，the Light Forces were taking some extraordinary steps to make certain aspects of the most awakened surface operation lightworkers to be ready for certain missions and that operation has failed almost completely，so it was known already in the summer of last year there will be some kind of a crash happening.I have received talks about financial crash since August last year.Information was given there is not enough time to create Islands of Light.I was not expecting a pandemic，but there was intel coming that we need to prepare for a hard landing，for a hard crush.This is what is happening.
Debra:是的，我想和你談談財務狀況，但是我還有幾個關於我們冥想的問題。這種冥想實際上是人類的一種選擇，是在今年稍晚發生的事件，還是在聯邦儲備系統關閉的三角洲選擇，一個特殊秘密力量集團發起清除陰謀集團(但不是耶穌會、黑色貴族、奇美拉和執政官)，發生在非物質層面被清除之前，僅僅在美國，美元崩潰，全面披露不會立即發生引發強烈的國際反應，我們將經歷一個不穩定和混亂以過渡到事件嗎？參加全球冥想的人數多寡是否可以決定我們能夠更順利地過渡到事件，或者我們是否必須選擇德爾塔方案？
Debra:Yes，I'd like to talk to you in a moment about the financial situation，but I just have a few more questions about our meditation.Is this meditation effectively a choice for humanity between the Event happening slightly later this year or the Delta Option，where the Federal Reserve System is shut down，a Special Secret Forces group initiates the removal of the cabal(but not the Jesuits，Black Nobility，Chimera，and Archons)，occurring before the non-physical planes are cleared out，within the USA only，with the US Dollar collapsing，full disclosure not happening immediately，triggering a strong international reaction where we would experience an unstable and chaotic transition to the Event?Are we making a choice in terms of the amount of participants as to whether we would have more of a smooth transition to the Event or whether we would have to choose the Delta Option?
柯博拉:正如我所說的，我現在不能對光明勢力的具體計劃發表評論。我現在甚至不能對達美航空做出評論。但我要說的是，如果我們達到臨界質量，我們的道路肯定會更平坦。
Cobra:As I said，I cannot comment on concrete plans of the Light Forces at this moment.I cannot even comment on Delta Option at this moment.But I will say that if we reach the critical mass，our path will be definitely smoother.
Debra:你說過這個即將到來的冥想是一個"對地表人類是否能夠統一的測試"。光明勢力將監測合作的程度，並將此作為近期活動計劃的決定因素之一。"請你解釋一下這是什麼意思好嗎？如果我們"失敗"這個測試會發生什麼？
Debra:You have said that this upcoming meditation is a'test for the surface population whether it will be able to manifest unity or not.The Light Forces will be monitoring the level of cooperation and will use that as one of the determining factors for the immediate future plans for the Event."Would you please explain what you mean by this?What happens if we"fail'this test?
柯博拉:這個考試不是學校裡的考試。更重要的是，光明勢力正在監測地表人類的反應，以便他們更好地瞭解如何進行事件操作:聯繫誰，誰被排除在外，誰是可靠的，誰不是。這是對這種性質的最後考驗。在這個測試結束後，他們將不再評估地表人類，因為他們已經有了一個相當好的理解，他們可以期待從特定的關鍵個體。這種隔離情況還使他們對於和事件非常相似的情況下的團體動態有了很多了解。
Cobra:This test is not meant as a test in school.It is more that the Light Forces are monitoring how the surface population reacts so that they better understand how to carry out the Event operations:who to contact，who to be left out，who is reliable，and who is not.This the final test of that nature.After this test is over，they will not be evaluating surface population anymore，as they already have quite a good understanding of what they can expect from particular key individuals.This quarantine situation also gives them a lot of understanding of the group dynamic in a situation that is quite similar to the Event.
Debra:有意思，有道理。所以，我們都知道現在保持我們的免疫系統強大是很重要的，而且恐懼會對削弱免疫系統產生很大的負面影響，所以我想討論一系列的話題，關於很多人都有疑問和恐懼的事情，以便提供給他們一些信息來緩解一些不確定性。我想討論的第一件事是財務狀況。
Debra:Interesting，that makes sense.So，we all know it's important to keep our immune system strong right now，and being fearful can have a big impact on weakening it，so I'd like to discuss a series of topics about things many people have questions and fear about to provide them information to ease some of the uncertainty.The first thing I'd like to discuss is the financial situation.
Debra:在我們一月份對水瓶座時代冥想的最後一次採訪中，你指出金融崩潰將是一個逐漸的崩潰，然而在你冥想之後的報告中，你又說那不再是一個選擇，它將是突然和殘酷的。發生了什麼變化，從漸進到突然？是光明的力量還是黑暗的力量造成了這種改變？
Debra:During our last interview in January for the Age of Aquarius meditation，you indicated that the financial collapse would be a gradual meltdown，yet in your report following that meditation，you then said that was no longer an option and that it would be sudden and brutal.What happened to change it from gradual to sudden?Was it the work of the light or dark forces to cause this change?
柯博拉:光明勢力只是看到黑暗勢力可以操縱經濟，以至於不可能逐漸通過財政狀況的淨化過程。這是不可能的，因為黑暗勢力總是一個接一個地使用詭計來掩蓋、壓制和操縱金融系統。所以當時機成熟的時候，光明勢力會發動一次突襲，他們會以一種黑暗財政行動無法應對的方式摧毀整個情況。
Cobra:The Light Forces have simply seen that the dark forces can do their manipulations of the economy to the degree that it is not possible to gradually go through the purification process of the financial situation.That's not possible because the dark forces will always use one trick after another to mask，to suppress，and to manipulate the financial system.So the Light Forces will do a surprise attack when the time is right and they will crash the whole thing in a way that's the dark financial actions will not be able to deal with.
Debra:在你最近的《我們熱愛集體冥想》訪談中，你指出這次碰撞可能發生在我們的4月4日/5日冥想之前。這種情況還會發生嗎？
Debra:During your recent We Love Mass Meditation interview，you indicated that it's possible that this crash could happen before our April 4/5 meditation.Could this still be the case?
柯博拉:這是有可能性的，但因為事情正在發展。在這一點上，這種可能性不大。
Cobra:It is possible but less likely as things are developing now.This is not a highly probable possibility at this point.
Debra:如果我們即將到來的冥想成功了，就像我們計劃的那樣，這能緩解金融危機嗎?或者不管怎樣，它基本上都會是一場硬崩潰？
Debra:If our upcoming meditation is a success，which we are planning on it to be，can this ease the financial crash or it's basically going to be a hard crash no matter what?
柯博拉:這不會是最後的碰撞，因為最後的碰撞將發生在事件之前，但它絕對可以縮短從現在到事件之間的時間。
Cobra:It will not be the final crash，because the final crash will happen just before the Event，but it can definitely ease the time between now and the Event.
Debra:到目前為止，沒有一家銀行倒閉，但是他們準備好了嗎？我最近收到摩根大通銀行的通知，說他們把我的抵押貸款賣給了一家我從未聽說過的公司，這家公司將立即生效。這是因為他們知道自己很快就會崩潰嗎？如果銀行倒閉，像我這樣有抵押貸款的人會怎麼樣？
Debra:So far none of the banks have collapsed，but are they getting ready to?I recently received a notice from JP Morgan Chase Bank that they sold my mortgage loan to a company I've never heard of to be effective immediately.Is this because they know they are going to collapse soon?If the banks collapse，what would happen to people like me with mortgages?
柯博拉:這就是我剛才所說的，他們正在使用各種各樣的手段來保持系統的運行，以便他們能夠盡可能多地獲取金錢。目前銀行倒閉的可能性不大;它們可能發生在崩潰的後期階段，但不是現在看起來的那樣。抵押貸款將發生的事情是，所有債務將在事件發生前的一次嚴重崩潰中崩潰。
Cobra:This is what I was speaking about just before，they're using all kinds of manipulations to keep the system running in the way that they can grab as much money as possible.Bank collapses are not likely at this point;they can happen at a later stage of the collapse，but not yet as it seems right now.What will happen with the mortgages is that all debt will collapse in a hard crash just before the Event.
Debra:那銀行信用卡也不能用了嗎？
Debra:And bank credit cards would not be able to be used either?
柯博拉:沒錯。 Cobra:Exactly.
Debra:也許這就是為什麼抵抗運動建議從銀行取出現金。人們想知道他們的錢在銀行裡會發生什麼？這是否意味著我們所有或大部分的錢應該被取出，或者只是足夠的現金支付一個月左右的賬單，而系統重置？
Debra:Maybe that's why the Resistance Movement has advised taking cash out of the banks.People are wondering what would happen to their money in the banks?Does this mean all or most of our money should be taken out，or just enough cash to pay bills for a month or so while the system resets?
柯博拉:現在從銀行取一些錢是常識，這樣你就有現金準備，如果你需要買雜貨，如果你需要去商店，在這個全球隔離，你需要有一些現金在這些類型的開支方面。關於事件的情況，是否需要從銀行提錢，你需要聆聽自己的內在指引。在過去的八年裡，已經有足夠的情報公佈於眾，告訴我們如何為這次活動做準備。
Cobra:Right now it is common sense to take some of the money from the bank so you have cash ready if you need to buy groceries，if you need to go to a store，in this global quarantine you need to have some cash on the side for those kinds of expenses.Regarding the Event situation，taking money out of the bank you need to use your own inner guidance.There has been enough intel released in the last eight years about how to prepare for the Event.
Debra:沒錯！根據MSN的說法，有一個無現金系統的建議，在這個系統中，銀行本質上將成為你現金的管理者，並向你收取服務費。這是真的嗎?如果發生這種情況，這是否意味著黑色貴族/陰謀集團的一個派系正在取得勝利？
Debra:Right!According to MSN，there is a proposal to have a cashless system，where the bank would essentially become caretakers of your cash and would charge you for the service.Is this true，and does this mean that one faction of the Black Nobility/cabal is winning out in this situation if this happens?
柯博拉:是的，有這方面的建議。當然，這個黑色貴族派系正在利用這種冠狀病毒大流行來推進他們關於無現金社會的計劃。在過去的一兩個星期裡，美國和歐洲已經有人對此提出了相當強烈的意見。但是現在他們還沒有取得勝利，所以還有其他的力量在起作用，可以阻止這種情況發生。這是他們的計劃。這個計劃是眾所周知的，我們正在採取行動來阻止這個計劃。
Cobra:Yes，there are proposals in this direction.Of course，this Black Nobility faction is using this coronavirus pandemic to further their plans regarding a cashless society.There have been suggestions about this quite strong in the last week or two in the United States and Europe.But right now they are not winning yet，so there are other forces in play that can prevent this from happening.This was their plan.This plan was known，and there are actions being taken to stop this.
Debra:最近有人宣佈，美聯儲現在已經破產，由美國財政部控制，從一個私人實體轉變為一個政府機構。發生了什麼，這對人們意味著什麼？這是恢復金本位制的積極舉措嗎？
Debra:It was recently announced that the US Federal Reserve is now bankrupted and controlled by the US Treasury，going from a private entity to a government agency.What happened and what does this mean for the people?Is this something positive to bring the gold standard back?
柯博拉:嗯，事情不完全是這樣的。通常是美聯儲(fed)和美國財政部攜手合作。他們彼此合作。實際上是財政部憑空發行貨幣，美聯儲購買這些貨幣，並在其資產負債表上創造更多的債務。因此，這是一個相當複雜的機制，允許他們憑空創造貨幣。幾乎沒有人理解這一點。當他們發放這2.2萬億美元的援助時，他們現在已經發放了，或者他們將在經濟中發放，他們將做的是減少美元的價值，這樣一個普通人將不會從中受益。他們實際上會失去一部分資產，也會失去一部分財務淨值。這正是他們想要做的。這就是為什麼這樣發佈的原因。
Cobra:Well，this is not exactly like that.Usually it is that the US Federal Reserve and Treasury work hand in hand.They cooperate with each other.It is actually the Treasury which issues money out of thin air and the Federal Reserve purchases that and creating more debt in its balance sheet.So it's quite a complex mechanism which allows them to create money out of thin air.Almost nobody understands this.When they issue this aid of$2.2 trillion，which they have released now，or they will release in the economy，what they will do is that they will diminish the value of the dollar so an average person will not gain from this.They will actually lose part of their assets and they will lose part of their financial net worth.This is exactly what they want to do.This is why this has been released like this.
Debra:人們會怎麼樣在這種情況下損失一些資產呢？
Debra:How would people lose some of their assets in this?
柯博拉:如果你的房子有一定的價值，如果美元貶值，因為有更多的美元在流通，你的房子的真正價值將下降。
Cobra:If you have a house which has been estimated to have a certain value，if the dollar depreciates because there is more dollars in circulation，the real value of your house will go down.
Debra:當然，這是有道理的。許多人，企業和金融市場正在經歷由於冠狀病毒造成的財政困難。主要業務會關閉嗎？未來是否會出現嚴重的衰退？這是這種病毒的黑暗議程之一嗎？還是說，這就是光明勢力為所有人帶來一個新的、更健康的金融體系的方式？
Debra:Of course，that makes sense.Many people，businesses，and financial markets are experiencing financial hardship due to the coronavirus.Will major businesses close?Is a serious recession ahead?Is this one of the dark agendas of this virus?Or is this the light force's way to bring about a new，healthier financial system for all?
柯博拉:它是一切的混合物。現在，所有的議程都被釋放出來，並開始運作。所以黑暗勢力並不希望經濟衰退，他們希望社會完全崩潰，而這並沒有發生。正在發生的事情是一個實際上有一個好結果的過程。這是一個過程，人們真正找到自己的價值觀，稍作停頓，稍作休息，重新評估自己的生活，稍微退出激烈的競爭—當然，這會產生一定的經濟後果，對世界經濟產生一定的影響。但是過去幾十年的經濟並不健康。以犧牲人類生活質量和人際關係為代價來獲取越來越多利益並不是一個解決方案。現在越來越多的人意識到了這一點。
Cobra:It is a mixture of everything.Now all agendas are being released and in play.So the dark forces were not hoping for a recession，they were hoping for a total collapse of the society and that's not happening.What is happening is a process which actually has a good outcome.It's a process of people really finding their values，having a pause，having a little bit of a break to re-evaluate their life to exit from the rat race a little bit—and of course this has certain economic consequences，it has a certain impact on the world economy.But the economy as it was in the last few decades was not healthy.The goals for more and more profit at expense of human quality of life，and expense of human connections，was not a solution.Now more and more people are realizing this.
Debra:在我們上次達到臨界質量的冥想中，我們明白了光明勢力現在可以更直接地干預系統。這種情況發生過嗎？
Debra:During our last meditation where we reached critical mass，we understood it that the Light Forces could now more directly intervene in the system.Has that been happening?
柯博拉:這是在幕後發生的，但還沒有公開，因為黑暗勢力仍然控制著大眾媒體。
Cobra:It is happening behind the scenes，but not publicly yet because the dark forces still control the mass media.
Debra:回到你剛才提到的用這筆錢制定的經濟刺激計劃，G20宣佈其成員國將投資5萬億美元來阻止冠狀病毒的爆發和刺激經濟。一些國家正在給那些不能去工作的人錢。光之工作者可能會將如此大量的資金與GESARA聯繫起來。所有這一切是否意味著光明勢力已經在財政重置之前釋放了一些初步的繁榮基金？
Debra:Going back to what you mentioned about the stimulus packages with this money that's being created，G20 announced that its members will invest5trillion dollars to stop the coronavirus outbreak and boost the economy.Some countries are giving money to people who cannot go to work.Lightworkers might relate such a large amount of funding to GESARA.Is all this a sign that Light Forces are already releasing some preliminary prosperity funds before the financial reset?
柯博拉:不，這和GESARA沒有關係。
Cobra:No，this has no relation to GESARA.
Debra:好吧，這筆錢對人們來說是一件好事，或者這背後的目的是什麼？
Debra:Ok，it it a positive thing that this money will be available to people or what is the agenda behind that?
柯博拉:這基本上是唯一可能發生的事情，因為如果經濟和企業得不到刺激，系統將崩潰。美聯儲別無選擇，只能釋放這些資金。他們沒有別的選擇，他們被逼到了牆角。所以在某種程度上這是一件好事，但是在另一方面，黑暗勢力正在利用這種情況來進一步鞏固他們的力量。
Cobra:It is basically the only thing that could happen because if the economy and businesses do not receive the stimulus，the system will collapse.The Federal Reserve had no other option than to release those funds.There was no other option，they were pushed to the wall.So in a way it's a good thing，but on the other hand，the dark forces are using the situation to consolidate their power even more.
所以這是一把雙刃劍。 So it's a double-edged sword.
Debra:就像這一切，對嗎？ Debra:Like all of this，right?
柯博拉:是的。 Cobra:Yes.
Debra:有沒有可能一些光之工作者開始接受來自抵抗運動或光明勢力的資金？
Debra:Is it possible yet for some lightworkers to start receiving funds from the Resistance Movement or the Light Forces?
柯博拉:不，不會在事件發生之前。
Cobra:No，not before the Event.
Debra:覺醒的社會中的一個大辯論是，川普是為"好人"工作還是為"壞人"工作。一些人相信他正在拯救世界，另一些人則認為他是黑暗議程的傀儡。到底是哪一個？
Debra:One big debate in the awakened community is whether Trump is working for the"good"guys or the"bad"guys.Some are convinced he is saving the world and others feel he is a puppet for the dark agenda.Which is it?
柯博拉:他不是在拯救世界，他也不是黑暗特工。他介於兩者之間。他有自己的議程，那就是讓美國再次偉大，讓川普再次偉大。他有顧問，其中一些是耶穌會的人，其中一些與猶太復國主義派系有更多的聯繫。他還有一些很好的顧問，他們與正面的軍方有聯繫。所以他是根據自身利益的考量，有時聽一邊，有時聽另一邊的。
Cobra:He's not saving the world and he's not a dark operative.He is somewhere in between.He has his own agenda which is to make America great again and to make Trump great again.He has advisers;some of them are Jesuits-type of people，some of them are connected more to the Zionist faction.He also has some good advisers who are connected to the positive military.So sometimes he listens to one side and sometimes to the other side according to what serves his self-interest the most.
Debra:那麼Qanon傳播光明或傳播欺騙呢？
Debra:And what about Qanon–spreading light or spreading deception?
柯博拉:這不是回答這個問題的最高目的。
Cobra:It is not the highest purpose to answer this question.
Debra:好的。讓我來問問你們，麻省理工學院(MIT)剛剛為冠狀病毒患者及其接觸者推出了定位跟蹤技術(location-trackingtechnology)，這以公共衛生的名義引發了隱私方面的擔憂，類似於在中國已經發生到驚人程度的監控和監視。這些措施是有助於阻止病毒蔓延，還是旨在使世界更接近成為一個大規模監控國家？
Debra:OK.Let me ask you about MIT just launching location-tracking technology for coronavirus patients and those they interact with，which brings up privacy concerns in the name of public health，similar to the monitoring and surveillance that has been happening in China to a frightening degree.Are these measures helpful in stopping the virus or is the purpose to bring the world one step closer to becoming a mass surveillance state?
柯博拉:再說一遍，這是一把雙刃劍。是的，這種追蹤可以幫助阻止病毒並拯救生命，但是如果出於錯誤的動機，它可以導致更大的控制和監視。
Cobra:Again，this is a double-edged sword.Yes，this kind of tracking can help stop the virus and save lives，but if done from the wrong motivation，it can lead to greater control and surveillance.
Debra:人們在談論網路和媒體關閉後的10天的黑暗;這是真的嗎？我們有大致的日期嗎？這是事件前的徵兆之一嗎？
Debra:People are talking about 10 days of darkness with the internet and media shutting down;is this true?Do we have a proximate date for this?Is this one of the signs before the Event?
柯博拉:我已經收到很多人的報告聲稱這一點，但我的高情報來源不能證實這一點。所以根據我的消息來源，這不會發生。
Cobra:I have received many reports from people claiming this，but my high intel sources are not confirming this.So according to my sources，this will not happen.
Debra:本·富爾福德說，藍色光束計劃正在進行最後一次偽造世界末日秀的嘗試。你覺得這會發生嗎？
Debra:Ben Fulford states that Project Blue Beam is in the works for a last attempt fake Armageddon show.Do you see this happening?
柯博拉:不。有些人有計劃，有些派系想要這麼做，但是這在技術上是不可行的。光明勢力有太多的力量和資源來阻止這一切的發生。所以這是不現實的。我想像不到會這樣。
Cobra:No.There are people who have plans，factions that would like to do this，but it is not technically viable.The Light Forces have too much power and too many resources to prevent this from happening.So it's not realistic.I am not expecting this.
Debra:最近在一些不尋常的地區發生了地震—這些地震是自然發生的，還是因為地下基地的清除？這些基地和奇美拉的現狀如何？
Debra:There have been earthquakes in unusual areas recently–are these natural or due to clearing of underground bases?What is the current status of these bases and the Chimera?
柯博拉:在某些情況下，它是清除地下基地。在其他情況下，它是一個很大的壓力場的能量場，因此很大的壓力在構造板塊。奇美拉直接參與了量子戰爭，他們正在失敗，這是他們在過去幾個月的主要攻勢之一，他們正在失去很多，特別是最後幾週。我不會對此做進一步的評論。
Cobra:In certain cases，it is clearing of underground bases.In other instances，it is a lot of stress to the energy field and consequently a lot of stress at tectonic plates.The Chimera group is directly involved in the quantum war and they are losing，it was one of their main offensives in the last few months and they're losing quite much，especially the last few weeks.I will not comment further on that.
Debra:好的。我們知道5G會嚴重損害免疫系統，在這場大流行計劃中扮演著關鍵角色。關於通過特斯拉星鏈（Starlink）部署計畫安裝的5G技術，這真的在進行嗎?如果是的話，我們能抵消它嗎？我們如何能夠管理這些對地球發射的有害頻率？
Debra:OK.We know that 5G seriously compromises the immune system，playing a critical role in this pandemic plan.In reference to the 5G technology being installed through Tesla star link，is this actually going ahead，and if so，can we counteract it?How are we going to be able to manage these harmful frequencies being beamed at the planet?
柯博拉:是的，這個計劃正在一定程度上得到實施。黑暗勢力正在地面和軌道上安裝5G網絡方面取得一些進展。但是光明勢力也在開發直接對抗它的技術。所以，這又是一場戰爭。
Cobra:Yes，this plan is being implemented to a certain degree.The dark forces are making some progress in installing those 5G networks on the surface and in orbit.But the Light Forces are also developing technology to counteract it directly.So again，it's a war.
Debra:我們有沒有可能通過埋藏如意寶珠來抵消5G呢？
Debra:Is it possible for us to counteract 5G by burying Cintamani stones?
柯博拉:如意寶珠可以增強你的免疫系統和能量場，所以間接地，他們將有助於在一定程度上對抗5G，但它不是一種阻止5G的技術。
Cobra:Cintamani stones can strengthen your immune system and your energy field，so indirectly they would help to a certain degree against 5G，but it's not a technology to stop 5G.
Debra:你曾經提到過，卡特里派教徒用如意寶珠打開門戶。你能解釋一下他們為什麼這麼做嗎?這些傳送門的目的是什麼？
Debra:You have mentioned in the past that the Cathars used Cintamani stones to open portals.Can you explain why they were doing this and what purpose those portals served?
柯博拉:一些高度啟蒙的卡特里派教徒，那些被啟蒙到更高等級的聖殿教徒，以及一些也被啟蒙進入神秘女神的聖殿教徒，利用這個來與非物質積極的揚升存有和揚升女神交流，比如女神愛希斯。他們使用如意寶珠創造了一個連接物理平面和更高維度的入口，他們有時相當成功。
Cobra:Some of the highly initiated，those Cathars who were initiated to higher grades of their order and some of the Templars who were also initiated into the Goddess mysteries，used this to communicate with non-physical positive ascended beings and also ascended Goddesses，such as Goddess Isis.They were using Cintamani stones to create a portal to connect the physical plane with higher dimensions and they were quite successful sometimes.
Debra:你是否建議薔薇聖女團的成員用她們的石頭打開這樣的入口？
Debra:Would you suggest that members of the Sisterhood of the Rose use their stones to open portals like this?
柯博拉:如果他們有能力而且技術熟練的話，是的。
Cobra:If they're capable and they are skilled enough，yes.
Debra:要做到這一點需要什麼技能？
Debra:What skills would be required to do this?
柯博拉:首先，他們需要對這種傳送門的工作原理有足夠的瞭解，不管是直覺上還是心理上。這是高級工作，並不適合每個人。
Cobra:First they would need to have enough understanding，both intuitively and mentally，of how this kind of portal works.This is advanced work，it's not for everybody.
Debra:過去你曾提到過，如意寶珠被放置在環繞地球的舞池中，以幫助促進主流狂歡文化中的正面外星人的接觸體驗。你能解釋一下這是怎麼回事嗎？當舞者在恍惚的狀態下跳舞時，能夠有這種接觸嗎？
Debra:In the past you mentioned that Cintamani stones are being positioned into dance floors around the planet in order to help facilitate the contact experience with positive ETs within the mainstream rave culture.Can you explain how that works?Are dancers able to have this contact when dancing in a trance state?
柯博拉:事實上，是的。曾經有一個項目，在某些恍惚的聚會上，一定數量的如意寶珠被放置在舞池周圍的神聖幾何圖案中，人們因此有了與外星人接觸的經歷。
Cobra:Actually，yes.There was a project when certain amounts of Cintamani stones were placed in sacred geometry patterns around the dance floors at certain trance parties and people were having contact experiences with positive extraterrestrial beings as a result of that field.
Debra:有意思。跳舞會增加你的交流能力嗎？
Debra:Interesting.Does dancing increase your ability to connect?
柯博拉:可以。 Cobra:It can.
Debra:現在我們正在逐步接近這個事件，我們可以用我們的聖石做一些額外的事情來增加它們的有效性嗎，比如把它們和其他強大的石頭組合起來？
Debra:Now that we are getting incrementally a closer to the Event，are there additional things we can do with our Cintamani stones to add to their effectiveness，such as pairing them up with other powerful stones?
柯博拉:沒有必要。如果你是根據你的內在指引，那麼你可以做，但是這不是如意寶珠的首要目標。
Cobra:That is not necessary.If you have your guidance，you can do it，but it is not in the primary goal of a Cintamani stone.
Debra:他們的主要目標是淨化？ Debra:Their primary goal is purification?
柯博拉:如意寶珠的主要目標是成為你自己的個人石頭，與你的高我連接，協助你的揚升過程，融化你的植入物。對於任務工作，你可以將你的石頭放置在地面行星能量網格的位置上。
Cobra:The primary goal of a Cintamani stone is to be your own personal stone to connect with your higher self，to assist your own ascension process，to melt your implants.For mission work，you can plant your stones in positions in a planetary energy grid in the ground.
Debra:你是否建議擁有一塊私人如意寶珠並在地面上像網格一樣種植它嗎？
Debra:Do you suggest having a personal stone as well as planting in the ground as a grid?
如意寶珠光網格：https://san23.pixnet.net/blog/post/65562841
柯博拉:是的。 Cobra:Yes.
Debra:說到這件事，我想問你幾個關於這件事的問題。幾個月前，你說獵戶座中的參宿四星正在變暗，這是一個很好的信號，表明我們正在接近突破。然而，科學家們現在表示，這種變暗現象似乎已經停止。它的更新是什麼？
Debra:Speaking of the Event，I'd like to ask you a few questions in reference to that.A few months ago you said that the Betelgeuse star in the Orion constellation is dimming and that this is a good indicator that we are close to the breakthrough.Yet scientists have now said it looks like the dimming has stopped.What is the update with it?
柯博拉:是的，調光停止了。這只是超新星爆發前的一個階段，但這是二元性時代結束的一個好兆頭。
Cobra:Yes，the dimming has stopped.It was just one phase before the final Supernova explosion，but it was a good sign that the time of duality is over.
Debra:所以停止變暗不是一個負面信號？
Debra:And so stopping the dimming is not a negative sign?
柯博拉:不，這意味著它只是通過了一個特定的階段，我們正在進入下一個階段。
Cobra:No，it means it just passed a certain phase and we're entering the next phase.
Debra:很好。在我們一月份的最後一次冥想中，我們很幸運地把我們推入了壓縮突破的下一個階段，成核階段的氣泡上升亞階段。這一階段的指數增長達到了頂峰，在我們的例子中，這就是事件。我們肯定正在經歷這個階段的"末日瘋狂"，但是我們如何能夠在我們的生活中體驗到更多的天堂泡沫的成長呢？
Debra:Good.In our last meditation in January we were fortunate enough to push us over the threshold into the next phase of the Compression Breakthrough，the Bubble Rising subphase of the nucleation phase.This phase has exponential growth that culminates to a boiling point，in our case，the Event.We are definitely experiencing the"end time madness"of this phase，but how can we instead experience more growth of Bubbles of Heaven in our lives?
天堂的實相泡泡：https://san23.pixnet.net/blog/post/67690797
柯博拉:為了體驗天堂泡泡，你需要遠離人群去接近大自然，因為現在絕大多數地表人類完全陷入這場大流行的戲劇。許多恐懼和程序正在被觸發。你需要離最近的人至少30碼(27.4米)遠才能體驗到天堂的實相泡泡。如果你現在想體驗天堂的實相泡泡，那麼極端的社交距離是必要的。
Cobra:For Bubble of Heaven to be experienced，you need to go to nature away from people，because now the vast majority of the surface population is completely enmeshed in this pandemic drama.A lot of fears and programs are being triggered.You need to be at least 30 yards away from the nearest human being to experience Bubbles of Heaven.Extreme social distancing is needed if you wish to experience Bubbles of Heaven right now.
Debra:我很高興你提到30碼，因為我想問的是，如果你是在一個繁華的都市，你能去一個城市公園嗎，但是那裡可能會有很多人，還是你會建議去一個離其他人30碼遠的地方？
Debra:I'm glad you mentioned 30 yards because I was going to ask，if you're in a busy city could you go into a city park，but chances are there'll be lots of people there，so you're suggesting going someplace where you're 30 yards away from other people?
柯博拉:至少。 Cobra:At least.
Debra:好建議。你能告訴我們這個階段的進展有多快，可能會持續多久嗎？人們在問，我們還能指望末日的瘋狂持續多久？我們是否仍然處在新的黃金時代的黎明之前？
Debra:Excellent advice.Can you give us an idea how quickly we are moving through this phase and how long it might last?People are asking，how long can we expect the end time madness to go on?Are we still right before the dawn of the new Golden Age?
柯博拉:我不會給出任何日期或時間框架，因為這實際上是一個事件何時發生的問題，當然，我無法回答。我認為通過描述這個泡沫的上升階段，我們已經很好地理解了我們在解放過程中的位置。
Cobra:I would not give any dates or any time frames because this is actually a question when the Event will happen，which of course，I cannot answer.I think by describing this Bubble Rising phase，we have a pretty good understanding of where we are in the liberation process.
Debra:冠狀病毒大流行是否延緩了這一階段的進展?4月4日/5日的冥想若是成功是否會加速這一階段的進展？
Debra:Has the coronavirus pandemic slowed this phase down?Will a successful meditation on April 4/5 speed this phase up?
柯博拉:實際上，冠狀病毒的流行已經加速了這一事件的進程，因為光明勢力在阻止病毒的努力中已經加速了血漿層的清除，以至於這一事件基本上會比預期的更早發生。
Cobra:Actually the coronavirus pandemic has accelerated the process towards the Event because the Light Forces in their effort to stop the virus have accelerated the clearing of the plasma plane so much that the Event will basically happen sooner than expected.
Debra:哦，太好了!我相信我們的冥想也會對此有所幫助！
Debra:Oh wonderful!And I'm sure our meditation will help that along as well!
柯博拉:是的，是的。 Cobra:Yes，yes.
Debra:在去年台北舉行的揚升會議的記錄中表明，除了正在拆除的上層炸彈外，地表人類需要在事件發生前做好準備。需要什麼樣的準備，這和即將到來的冥想有什麼關係？
Debra:In the notes for the Ascension Conference in Taipei last year，it indicates that in addition to the toplet bombs being removed，the surface population needs to be ready before the Event can happen.What kind of readiness is needed and does it have to do with this upcoming meditation?
柯博拉:實際上，通過這次全球隔離訓練，地表人類已經達到了這種準備狀態。這種訓練，這種經驗，已經證明地表人類已經準備好了。因此，當一切準備就緒，地表人類將能夠應對這一事件，實際上將能夠比最初預期的更好地應對"事件"，這是全球所有大規模封鎖的結果。
Cobra:Actually，the surface population had achieved this readiness with this global quarantine training.This training，this experience，has proved that the surface population is ready.So when everything else is ready，the surface population will be able to handle the Event—actually will be able to handle the Event better than it was originally expected，so this is the good news as a result of all those mass lockdowns around the planet.
什麼是"事件"：https://san23.pixnet.net/blog/post/58559857
Debra:哇，耶～人性！光明勢力是否對每個光之工作者或人類進行心理評估？如果這個評估不令人滿意，它會影響事件/提升時間線嗎？或者，就像你剛才說的，我們在某種程度上證明自己已經準備好了？
Debra:Wow，yay humanity!Do the Light Forces conduct a psychological assessment of each lightworker or human being?And if this assessment is not satisfactory，will it affect the Event/ascension timeline?Or，as you just said，we were sort of proving ourselves as being ready?
柯博拉:我想說，關鍵的光之工作者在關鍵時刻的行為肯定會對時間線產生相當大的影響。這在過去已經被證明了很多次。有些人已經徹底改善了狀況，然而有些人本來可以改善狀況，卻徹底搞砸了。所以這兩種情形都發生了很多次。當然，光明勢力會對關鍵人物進行心理評估。他們必須不斷調整他們的計劃，他們計劃的某些方面，因為他們的大多數計劃並不依賴於地表人類，但有某些方面是。他們需要對某些關鍵人物的行動進行評估，並在一定程度上不斷調整自己的計劃。
Cobra:I would say the behavior of key lightworkers in key moments can definitely influence the timeline quite much.It has been proven many times in the past.Certain people have drastically improved the situation，while certain people who could have improved the situation have，to put it mildly，completely screwed up.So both things did happen a lot.Light Forces，of course，have psychological evaluations of key people.They have to constantly adapt their plans，certain aspects of their plans because most of their plans are not dependent on the surface population，but certain aspects of them are.They need to evaluate and constantly adapt their plans regarding the actions of certain key people to a certain degree.
Debra:會不會有一些星際種子和光之工作者臨時到飛船上去接受事件之前的訓練和治療？
Debra:Will some starseeds and lightworkers be going up to ships temporarily for training and healing prior to the Event?
柯博拉:不是身體上的，但是在你的夢裡。你可能已經在母艦上有一個不錯的經歷了。
Cobra:Not physically，but in your dreams.you might have a nice experience on the motherships already.
Debra:它是如何決定誰會有這些經歷的？
Debra:How is it determined who will have these experiences?
柯博拉:那些已經準備好的和那些將會，當然，協助行星解放計劃的人。這並不奇怪。它是以使命為導向的。
Cobra:Those who are ready and those who will，of course，assist in the plan of the planetary liberation.This is not a curious thing.It's mission-oriented.
Debra:如果這發生在我們身上，我們還會記得這一切嗎？
Debra:If this happened to us，would we have recollection of this happening?
柯博拉:視情況而定。有些人會有記憶，有些人不會。為了安全起見，在你回到物理身體之前，記憶的某些方面會被移除。
Cobra:Depending on the case.Some people would have recollections，some would not.Certain aspects of memory would be removed before you come back into the physical body for security purposes.
Debra:很多人都夢見自己在船上或者看到幻象。
Debra:A lot of people are having dreams about being on ships or visions.
柯博拉:沒錯，是的。 Cobra:Exactly，yes.
Debra:我想問問你揚升的事。這扇窗到2025年會關上嗎？
Debra:I'd like to ask you about ascension.Does this window still close in 2025?
柯博拉:正如我所說的，"事件"預計將在2025年底之前發生。這是我們的目標。
Cobra:As I said，the Event is expected to happen before the end of 2025.That is the goal.
Debra:事件，但不一定是揚升。 Debra:The Event，but not necessarily Ascension.
柯博拉:揚升是一個過程，不是一夜之間就能實現的。
Cobra:Ascension is a process.It is not something that would happen overnight.
Debra:是的。計劃還是要有三波揚升嗎？
Debra:Right.Is the plan still to have three waves of ascension?
柯博拉:是的。 Cobra:Yes.
Debra:事件發生多久後第一波會發生？
Debra:How long after the event will the first wave occur?
柯博拉:預計，我會說，一兩年後的事件。
Cobra:It is expected，I would say，one or two years after the Event.
Debra:我知道我們現在都在揚升的進程中，但是你是說有些波可能在2025年之後發生？
Debra:I know we're all in the Ascension process right now，but you're saying some of these waves could potentially happen after 2025?
柯博拉:是的，有可能。 Cobra:Yes，it's possible.
Debra:我們能不能做點什麼來加快速度？
Debra:Is there anything we can do to speed that up closer?
柯博拉:正如我所說的，現在重要的是參與大規模的全球冥想。合作也很重要，特別是對於光之工作者和光戰士來說，要合作而不是互相爭鬥。
Cobra:As I have said，what is important now is to participate in mass meditations.It is also important，especially for the lightworkers and lightwarriors，is to cooperate and don't fight with each other.
當然，我已經重複了成百上千次。很多人都聽不進去，所以我甚至不知道為什麼我還要回答這樣的問題。
Of course，I have repeated that hundreds and hundreds of times.Many are not listening to this，so I don't know even why I should answer questions like this anymore.
Debra:哈，是吧？光之工作者每天能做些什麼來幫助顯化事件時間線，為事件、為揚升做好準備？你提到接近大自然、冥想，你還有什麼建議嗎？
Debra:Ha，right?Is there anything lightworkers can do on a daily basis to help manifest the Event timeline，to prepare themselves for the Event，for ascension?You mentioned going in nature，meditating—is there anything else you can suggest?
柯博拉:我要說的是傾聽自己內在更高層次的指引，並真正付諸行動。不要只有一個理論概念。真正與你的高我聯繫起來，當你得到你的內在指引時，就去做吧。
Cobra:I would say listen to their higher guidance and really act upon it.Do not have just a theoretical concept.Really connect with your higher self，and when you get your guidance，do it.
Debra:那改變我們的恐懼和陰影呢?這項工作現在很重要，對吧？
Debra:What about transmuting our fears and shadows?That work is quite important to do right now，right?
柯博拉:是的。關於轉化陰影，我想說的是對自己要真誠。不要欺騙自己。承認一些事情，然後你就有機會改變它。
Cobra:Yes.Regarding transmuting shadows，I would say be sincere with yourself.Do not lie to yourself.Admit things to yourself，and then you will have the opportunity to transmute it.
Debra:如果我們在做深度創傷治療工作，我們如何繼續保持光明？
Debra:How do we continue to hold the light if we are doing deep trauma healing work?
柯博拉:實際上，由於深度創傷癒合的結果，總是會有更多的光出現。因此，當你處於一個清理過程中，你可能會覺得一切都是黑暗的，沒有希望的，沒有光明的。但是當你堅持下去，你只是這個過程的見證者，你不需要認同這個過程，只是堅持下去，你就會發現，每當你清除一層創傷，你的內心就會有更多的光明出現。
Cobra:Actually，as a result of deep trauma healing work，more light always comes.So when you're in the middle of a clearing process，it might feel that everything is dark and there is no hope and there is no light.But after you just persevere and you are just a witness to the process and you don't identify yourself with the process and just persevere，you will discover that each time you clear one layer of trauma，more light is present within you.
Debra:如果你有被壓抑的創傷記憶呢？是否有必要讓這些記憶被完全揭示以獲得療癒？
Debra:What about if you have repressed memories of trauma?Is it necessary for those memories to be revealed to fully heal?
柯博拉:我要說的是，一定數量的臨界記憶需要被還回去。我不會說明每一個細節，但是你需要對你的時間線有一個基本的瞭解，你的生活是如何過去的，發生了什麼。
Cobra:I would say a certain critical mass of memory needs to be given back.I will not say every particular detail，but you need to have a basic understanding of your timeline of how your life went and what happened.
Debra:有沒有什麼方法可以進入這些被壓抑的記憶？
Debra:Is there a way to access some of these repressed memories?
柯博拉:是的，有很多方法可以訪問它們，但我不會詳細說明。這是一個合格的治療師可以討論的問題。
Cobra:Yes，there are many ways to access them，but I will not go into detail.This is something for a qualified therapist to discuss.
Debra:好吧，我明白了。這個問題已經收到好幾次了，我想問的是，自從我母親最近過世以來。對非物質層面上的人類靈魂來說，現在的事情是不是變得不那麼具有挑戰性了，因為那些非物質層面上的負面實體已經被加速清除了？在事件發生前死去的人怎麼辦？
Debra:OK，I understand.This question was received several times，and I would like to ask it since my mother recently transitioned.Are things less challenging now for the human souls on the non-physical planes since the clearance of negative entities on those planes has been accelerated?What happens to those who die before the Event?
柯博拉:是的，高層等離子的狀況有所改善。現在沒有以前那麼黑暗了。所以，對於那些已經脫離物質生活的人來說，現在情況正在逐步好轉。
Cobra:Yes，conditions on higher planes have improved.It is not as dark as it was.So for those who have transitioned from the physical existence，now things are getting progressively better.
Debra:他們是回到了輪迴週期，還是一直被扣留到事件發生?
Debra:Are they going back into the reincarnation cycle or are they kind of being held until the Event?
柯博拉:我會說他們中的一小部分選擇再次化身或者他們被欺騙/說服再次化身，這取決於他們的位置。但是他們中的大多數都停留在更高的層面上，等待著轉變的發生。
Cobra:I would say a small percentage of them chooses to incarnate again or they are tricked/persuaded to incarnate again，depending on their position.But most of them are staying on higher planes，waiting for the transition to occur.
Debra:好的，太好了。許多人正在經歷身體問題。他們往往感到疲倦或情緒失控，有些人有心悸或失眠。這些是揚升前能量清理的症狀，還是攻擊？我們能做些什麼來處理這些問題？
Debra:OK，wonderful.Many people are experiencing physical problems.They tend to feel tired or emotionally out of control，some have heart palpitations or insomnia.Are these symptoms of energy cleanup before ascension，or are they attacks?What can we do to deal with these issues?
柯博拉:這是所有這一切的結合。現在仍然有植入、生物芯片、標量技術和實體。但是也有一個淨化過程正在進行，所以這一切都會對身體產生影響。再一次，這裡的關鍵之一是花一些時間在自然中，因為這樣你可以重新連接純粹的水晶能量，並且可以幫助你的能量場和你的物質身體。
Cobra:It's a combination of all of this.There are still implants，biochips，scalar technology，and entities.But there's also a purification process taking place，so all this has an impact on the physical body.Again，one of the keys here is to spend some time in nature because then you can reconnect with the pure crystalline energy and can help both your energy field and your physical body.
Debra:那就到外面去，人們！我知道我們今天談了很多，但我還有幾個關於《薔薇聖女團》的問題。一個經常出現的問題是，如果薔薇聖女團的所在地區已經封鎖，她們如何繼續舉行每週例會？
Debra:So get outside people!I know we've talked about a lot today，but I just have a few more questions regarding Sisterhood of the Rose.One question that has come up very often is how can Sisterhood of the Rose groups continue to hold weekly meetings if their area is in lockdown?
柯博拉:當然，在這種情況下，你顯然不能在物質層面上舉行聚會。但是我們能做什麼呢？我們仍然可以通過Skype、Zoom或者其他你可以連接的方式開會。
Cobra:Of course now in a situation like this，you cannot have physical things obviously.But what can we do?We still can have meetings on Skype，Zoom，or whatever you're using to connect.
Debra:那麼，在這些虛擬會議上，我們還能做些什麼來保持我們的影響力和維持女神漩渦呢？
Debra:So doing these virtual meetings，is there something additional we can do to keep our impact strong and maintain the Goddess vortex?
柯博拉:你可以使用與物理會議相同的協議。
Cobra:You can use the same protocol as for the physical meetings.
Debra:好的。我們仍然可以保持漩渦活躍，並繼續我們的工作嗎？
Debra:OK.And we'll still be able to keep the vortex active and still continue to do our work?
柯博拉:是的，是的。 Cobra:Yes，yes.
Debra:薔薇聖女團能做些什麼來穩定最積極的揚升時間線並終止冠狀病毒的爆發？
Debra:What can Sisterhood of the Rose groups do to stabilize the most positive ascension timeline and terminate the coronavirus outbreak?
柯博拉:參與者需要的是調用女神能量。不僅在冥想的時刻，而且在日常生活中傳播正面積極的女神原則，無論他們走到哪裡。
Cobra:What is necessary for the participants is to invoke Goddess energy.Not just in the moment of meditation，but also in daily life to spread positive Goddess principles wherever they go.
Debra:哦，我喜歡那個，我喜歡那個！有沒有什麼特別的揚升大師或女神我們應該去幫助的？
Debra:Oh I love that，I love that!Are there any particular Ascended masters or Goddesses we should call upon to assist?
柯博拉:這取決於你。 Cobra:It is up to you.
Debra:好吧，我們可以訪問所有這些網站，所以你的意思是如果你有私人聯繫可以訪問這些網站。在這個世界上，我們能做些什麼來吸引靈魂家族來到我們身邊...或者這會一直是一個挑戰，直到事件發生之後？
Debra:OK，we have access to all of them，so you're saying if you have a personal connection to call upon those.What can we do to attract Soul families to us in this current world…or will this prove to continue to be a challenge until after the Event?
柯博拉:你可以使用女神漩渦冥想，這也可以吸引你的靈魂伴侶和靈魂家族。但不幸的是，在事件發生之前，這些人中的許多人都妥協了。他們沒有被喚醒，他們受到控制。這被證明是一個挑戰，直到事件發生的那一刻。
Cobra:You can use the Goddess vortex meditation which can also attract your soulmates and soul families.But unfortunately before the Event，many of those people are compromised.They are not awakened and they are under control.It proves to be a challenge until the moment of the Event to a great degree.
Debra:最後一個問題，柯博拉。你說過，"我們所知道的世界已經結束了。"你能分享哪些可以減少我們當前和潛在的對未來的恐懼，減少我們在這個末日瘋狂時期所面臨的挑戰和混亂，的希望和鼓舞的話語？
Debra:And one last question，Cobra.You have said that，"The world as we know it has ended."What words of encouragement can you share that would decrease our fear regarding current—and potential future—challenges and chaos that we are facing during this end time madness，words of hope and inspiration?
柯博拉:你可以把目前的流行疫情看作是一個全球性的淨化過程。人類作為一個整體必須面對他們的恐懼。人類幾乎完全否認一切。現在正在發生的是承認真相。人類正面對著一面鏡子，這是一次極具療癒性的經歷，儘管它是相當具有挑戰性的，但其結果將是一個更加健康的社會。這樣做的結果將是為真正扎根、平衡的水瓶座時代打下基礎，這也是我們所有人都想要的。
Cobra:You can see this current epidemic situation as a global purification process.Humanity as a whole has to face their fears.Humanity was almost completely in denial about almost everything.What is happening now is acknowledging the truth.Humanity is facing the mirror which is an extremely healing experience，although it is quite challenging，the result of this will be a much healthier society.The result of this will be the foundation will be laid for the real grounded，balanced Age of Aquarius，and this is what we all want.
Debra:當然！再說一次，我們的冥想將在4月4日和5日到來，請檢查你的時區。柯博拉，我們很高興達到臨界質量實際上讓我們達到一百萬人參與這個冥想，好嗎？
Debra:Absolutely!And again，our meditation is coming up April 4th and 5th，check your time zone for that.Cobra，we're excited to reach critical mass—actually let's reach a million people for this meditation，yes?
柯博拉:是的，讓我們達到一百萬人，為什麼不呢？一切皆有可能。一百萬人在冥想，那會很棒的。這將是光明勢力看到的一個標誌，一個美麗的標誌，表明我們已經為下一步做好了準備。
Cobra:Yes，let's reach one million people，why not?Everything is possible.One million people meditating，that will be awesome.This will be something that the Light Forces will see as a sign，a beautiful sign，that we are ready for the next step.
Debra:當然，而且我們可以在宇宙歷史的這個重要時刻扮演一個非常非常重要的角色！
Debra:Absolutely，and we can play a very，very important role during this very important time in the history of the universe!
柯博拉:是的，沒錯。 Cobra:Yes，Exactly.
Debra:好吧，今天非常感謝你，柯博拉，我們非常喜歡這個，並感謝所有的信息和...光的勝利，謝謝你！
Debra:Alright well，thank you so much today Cobra，we have enjoyed this very much and appreciate all of the information and…Victory of the Light，thank you!
柯博拉:光的勝利！
Cobra:Victory of the Light!
—記錄完畢— —End of transcript—
最後，這裡有一個簡短的宣傳影片，關於這個由薔薇聖女團創造的冥想。
Finally，here is a short promotional video for this meditation created by the Sisterhood of the Rose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7uIDp8m6g
光的勝利！ Victory of the Light!
來源：https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2020/04/ascension-timeline-end-of-coronavirus-meditation-interview-with-cobra-by-the-sisterhood-of-the-rose.html
https://www.pfcchina.org/cobraft/37224.html
Debra:What happened last time，didn't we secure a positive timeline in our last meditation in January?What caused this to be compromised，did the coronavirus have anything to do with that?
柯博拉:是的，我們確實確保了基本的正面時間線。我們正進入水瓶座的新時代，這個並沒有改變。發生的情況是，我們只到達臨界質量邊緣，所以雖然是達到，但還不夠多。另一件事是，在幕後發生了一些不太好的事情，有團隊被滲透，我的團隊裡也有嚴重滲透。光網絡的一部分被破壞了。還有一些其他情況沒有像我們所希望的那樣發展。此外，在過去的兩年裡，光明勢力正在採取一些非尋常的步驟，以使最清醒的地面行動光之工作者的某些方面為某些任務做好準備，而這項行動幾乎已經完全失敗了，所以在去年夏天就已經知道將會發生某種墜機事件。自去年8月以來，我就收到了有關金融危機的討論。提供的信息沒有足夠的時間來創造光之島。我沒有預料到會發生大規模的流行病，但是有情報顯示，我們需要為硬著陸做準備。這就是正在發生的事情。
Cobra:Yes，we did secure the basic positive timeline.We are going into the new Age of Aquarius，that had not changed.One thing that happened was that we had barely reached a critical mass，so it was enough，but barely enough.And the other thing is that there were certain things happening behind the scenes which were not very good，there were infiltration in teams，also in my team there was serious infiltration.Parts of the light network were compromised.Also there were some other situations which were not developing as we have hoped they would.Also，in the last two years，the Light Forces were taking some extraordinary steps to make certain aspects of the most awakened surface operation lightworkers to be ready for certain missions and that operation has failed almost completely，so it was known already in the summer of last year there will be some kind of a crash happening.I have received talks about financial crash since August last year.Information was given there is not enough time to create Islands of Light.I was not expecting a pandemic，but there was intel coming that we need to prepare for a hard landing，for a hard crush.This is what is happening.
Debra:是的，我想和你談談財務狀況，但是我還有幾個關於我們冥想的問題。這種冥想實際上是人類的一種選擇，是在今年稍晚發生的事件，還是在聯邦儲備系統關閉的三角洲選擇，一個特殊秘密力量集團發起清除陰謀集團(但不是耶穌會、黑色貴族、奇美拉和執政官)，發生在非物質層面被清除之前，僅僅在美國，美元崩潰，全面披露不會立即發生引發強烈的國際反應，我們將經歷一個不穩定和混亂以過渡到事件嗎？參加全球冥想的人數多寡是否可以決定我們能夠更順利地過渡到事件，或者我們是否必須選擇德爾塔方案？
Debra:Yes，I'd like to talk to you in a moment about the financial situation，but I just have a few more questions about our meditation.Is this meditation effectively a choice for humanity between the Event happening slightly later this year or the Delta Option，where the Federal Reserve System is shut down，a Special Secret Forces group initiates the removal of the cabal(but not the Jesuits，Black Nobility，Chimera，and Archons)，occurring before the non-physical planes are cleared out，within the USA only，with the US Dollar collapsing，full disclosure not happening immediately，triggering a strong international reaction where we would experience an unstable and chaotic transition to the Event?Are we making a choice in terms of the amount of participants as to whether we would have more of a smooth transition to the Event or whether we would have to choose the Delta Option?
柯博拉:正如我所說的，我現在不能對光明勢力的具體計劃發表評論。我現在甚至不能對達美航空做出評論。但我要說的是，如果我們達到臨界質量，我們的道路肯定會更平坦。
Cobra:As I said，I cannot comment on concrete plans of the Light Forces at this moment.I cannot even comment on Delta Option at this moment.But I will say that if we reach the critical mass，our path will be definitely smoother.
Debra:你說過這個即將到來的冥想是一個"對地表人類是否能夠統一的測試"。光明勢力將監測合作的程度，並將此作為近期活動計劃的決定因素之一。"請你解釋一下這是什麼意思好嗎？如果我們"失敗"這個測試會發生什麼？
Debra:You have said that this upcoming meditation is a'test for the surface population whether it will be able to manifest unity or not.The Light Forces will be monitoring the level of cooperation and will use that as one of the determining factors for the immediate future plans for the Event."Would you please explain what you mean by this?What happens if we"fail'this test?
柯博拉:這個考試不是學校裡的考試。更重要的是，光明勢力正在監測地表人類的反應，以便他們更好地瞭解如何進行事件操作:聯繫誰，誰被排除在外，誰是可靠的，誰不是。這是對這種性質的最後考驗。在這個測試結束後，他們將不再評估地表人類，因為他們已經有了一個相當好的理解，他們可以期待從特定的關鍵個體。這種隔離情況還使他們對於和事件非常相似的情況下的團體動態有了很多了解。
Cobra:This test is not meant as a test in school.It is more that the Light Forces are monitoring how the surface population reacts so that they better understand how to carry out the Event operations:who to contact，who to be left out，who is reliable，and who is not.This the final test of that nature.After this test is over，they will not be evaluating surface population anymore，as they already have quite a good understanding of what they can expect from particular key individuals.This quarantine situation also gives them a lot of understanding of the group dynamic in a situation that is quite similar to the Event.
Debra:有意思，有道理。所以，我們都知道現在保持我們的免疫系統強大是很重要的，而且恐懼會對削弱免疫系統產生很大的負面影響，所以我想討論一系列的話題，關於很多人都有疑問和恐懼的事情，以便提供給他們一些信息來緩解一些不確定性。我想討論的第一件事是財務狀況。
Debra:Interesting，that makes sense.So，we all know it's important to keep our immune system strong right now，and being fearful can have a big impact on weakening it，so I'd like to discuss a series of topics about things many people have questions and fear about to provide them information to ease some of the uncertainty.The first thing I'd like to discuss is the financial situation.
Debra:在我們一月份對水瓶座時代冥想的最後一次採訪中，你指出金融崩潰將是一個逐漸的崩潰，然而在你冥想之後的報告中，你又說那不再是一個選擇，它將是突然和殘酷的。發生了什麼變化，從漸進到突然？是光明的力量還是黑暗的力量造成了這種改變？
Debra:During our last interview in January for the Age of Aquarius meditation，you indicated that the financial collapse would be a gradual meltdown，yet in your report following that meditation，you then said that was no longer an option and that it would be sudden and brutal.What happened to change it from gradual to sudden?Was it the work of the light or dark forces to cause this change?
柯博拉:光明勢力只是看到黑暗勢力可以操縱經濟，以至於不可能逐漸通過財政狀況的淨化過程。這是不可能的，因為黑暗勢力總是一個接一個地使用詭計來掩蓋、壓制和操縱金融系統。所以當時機成熟的時候，光明勢力會發動一次突襲，他們會以一種黑暗財政行動無法應對的方式摧毀整個情況。
Cobra:The Light Forces have simply seen that the dark forces can do their manipulations of the economy to the degree that it is not possible to gradually go through the purification process of the financial situation.That's not possible because the dark forces will always use one trick after another to mask，to suppress，and to manipulate the financial system.So the Light Forces will do a surprise attack when the time is right and they will crash the whole thing in a way that's the dark financial actions will not be able to deal with.
Debra:在你最近的《我們熱愛集體冥想》訪談中，你指出這次碰撞可能發生在我們的4月4日/5日冥想之前。這種情況還會發生嗎？
Debra:During your recent We Love Mass Meditation interview，you indicated that it's possible that this crash could happen before our April 4/5 meditation.Could this still be the case?
柯博拉:這是有可能性的，但因為事情正在發展。在這一點上，這種可能性不大。
Cobra:It is possible but less likely as things are developing now.This is not a highly probable possibility at this point.
Debra:如果我們即將到來的冥想成功了，就像我們計劃的那樣，這能緩解金融危機嗎?或者不管怎樣，它基本上都會是一場硬崩潰？
Debra:If our upcoming meditation is a success，which we are planning on it to be，can this ease the financial crash or it's basically going to be a hard crash no matter what?
柯博拉:這不會是最後的碰撞，因為最後的碰撞將發生在事件之前，但它絕對可以縮短從現在到事件之間的時間。
Cobra:It will not be the final crash，because the final crash will happen just before the Event，but it can definitely ease the time between now and the Event.
Debra:到目前為止，沒有一家銀行倒閉，但是他們準備好了嗎？我最近收到摩根大通銀行的通知，說他們把我的抵押貸款賣給了一家我從未聽說過的公司，這家公司將立即生效。這是因為他們知道自己很快就會崩潰嗎？如果銀行倒閉，像我這樣有抵押貸款的人會怎麼樣？
Debra:So far none of the banks have collapsed，but are they getting ready to?I recently received a notice from JP Morgan Chase Bank that they sold my mortgage loan to a company I've never heard of to be effective immediately.Is this because they know they are going to collapse soon?If the banks collapse，what would happen to people like me with mortgages?
柯博拉:這就是我剛才所說的，他們正在使用各種各樣的手段來保持系統的運行，以便他們能夠盡可能多地獲取金錢。目前銀行倒閉的可能性不大;它們可能發生在崩潰的後期階段，但不是現在看起來的那樣。抵押貸款將發生的事情是，所有債務將在事件發生前的一次嚴重崩潰中崩潰。
Cobra:This is what I was speaking about just before，they're using all kinds of manipulations to keep the system running in the way that they can grab as much money as possible.Bank collapses are not likely at this point;they can happen at a later stage of the collapse，but not yet as it seems right now.What will happen with the mortgages is that all debt will collapse in a hard crash just before the Event.
Debra:那銀行信用卡也不能用了嗎？
Debra:And bank credit cards would not be able to be used either?
柯博拉:沒錯。 Cobra:Exactly.
Debra:也許這就是為什麼抵抗運動建議從銀行取出現金。人們想知道他們的錢在銀行裡會發生什麼？這是否意味著我們所有或大部分的錢應該被取出，或者只是足夠的現金支付一個月左右的賬單，而系統重置？
Debra:Maybe that's why the Resistance Movement has advised taking cash out of the banks.People are wondering what would happen to their money in the banks?Does this mean all or most of our money should be taken out，or just enough cash to pay bills for a month or so while the system resets?
柯博拉:現在從銀行取一些錢是常識，這樣你就有現金準備，如果你需要買雜貨，如果你需要去商店，在這個全球隔離，你需要有一些現金在這些類型的開支方面。關於事件的情況，是否需要從銀行提錢，你需要聆聽自己的內在指引。在過去的八年裡，已經有足夠的情報公佈於眾，告訴我們如何為這次活動做準備。
Cobra:Right now it is common sense to take some of the money from the bank so you have cash ready if you need to buy groceries，if you need to go to a store，in this global quarantine you need to have some cash on the side for those kinds of expenses.Regarding the Event situation，taking money out of the bank you need to use your own inner guidance.There has been enough intel released in the last eight years about how to prepare for the Event.
Debra:沒錯！根據MSN的說法，有一個無現金系統的建議，在這個系統中，銀行本質上將成為你現金的管理者，並向你收取服務費。這是真的嗎?如果發生這種情況，這是否意味著黑色貴族/陰謀集團的一個派系正在取得勝利？
Debra:Right!According to MSN，there is a proposal to have a cashless system，where the bank would essentially become caretakers of your cash and would charge you for the service.Is this true，and does this mean that one faction of the Black Nobility/cabal is winning out in this situation if this happens?
柯博拉:是的，有這方面的建議。當然，這個黑色貴族派系正在利用這種冠狀病毒大流行來推進他們關於無現金社會的計劃。在過去的一兩個星期裡，美國和歐洲已經有人對此提出了相當強烈的意見。但是現在他們還沒有取得勝利，所以還有其他的力量在起作用，可以阻止這種情況發生。這是他們的計劃。這個計劃是眾所周知的，我們正在採取行動來阻止這個計劃。
Cobra:Yes，there are proposals in this direction.Of course，this Black Nobility faction is using this coronavirus pandemic to further their plans regarding a cashless society.There have been suggestions about this quite strong in the last week or two in the United States and Europe.But right now they are not winning yet，so there are other forces in play that can prevent this from happening.This was their plan.This plan was known，and there are actions being taken to stop this.
Debra:最近有人宣佈，美聯儲現在已經破產，由美國財政部控制，從一個私人實體轉變為一個政府機構。發生了什麼，這對人們意味著什麼？這是恢復金本位制的積極舉措嗎？
Debra:It was recently announced that the US Federal Reserve is now bankrupted and controlled by the US Treasury，going from a private entity to a government agency.What happened and what does this mean for the people?Is this something positive to bring the gold standard back?
柯博拉:嗯，事情不完全是這樣的。通常是美聯儲(fed)和美國財政部攜手合作。他們彼此合作。實際上是財政部憑空發行貨幣，美聯儲購買這些貨幣，並在其資產負債表上創造更多的債務。因此，這是一個相當複雜的機制，允許他們憑空創造貨幣。幾乎沒有人理解這一點。當他們發放這2.2萬億美元的援助時，他們現在已經發放了，或者他們將在經濟中發放，他們將做的是減少美元的價值，這樣一個普通人將不會從中受益。他們實際上會失去一部分資產，也會失去一部分財務淨值。這正是他們想要做的。這就是為什麼這樣發佈的原因。
Cobra:Well，this is not exactly like that.Usually it is that the US Federal Reserve and Treasury work hand in hand.They cooperate with each other.It is actually the Treasury which issues money out of thin air and the Federal Reserve purchases that and creating more debt in its balance sheet.So it's quite a complex mechanism which allows them to create money out of thin air.Almost nobody understands this.When they issue this aid of$2.2 trillion，which they have released now，or they will release in the economy，what they will do is that they will diminish the value of the dollar so an average person will not gain from this.They will actually lose part of their assets and they will lose part of their financial net worth.This is exactly what they want to do.This is why this has been released like this.
Debra:人們會怎麼樣在這種情況下損失一些資產呢？
Debra:How would people lose some of their assets in this?
柯博拉:如果你的房子有一定的價值，如果美元貶值，因為有更多的美元在流通，你的房子的真正價值將下降。
Cobra:If you have a house which has been estimated to have a certain value，if the dollar depreciates because there is more dollars in circulation，the real value of your house will go down.
Debra:當然，這是有道理的。許多人，企業和金融市場正在經歷由於冠狀病毒造成的財政困難。主要業務會關閉嗎？未來是否會出現嚴重的衰退？這是這種病毒的黑暗議程之一嗎？還是說，這就是光明勢力為所有人帶來一個新的、更健康的金融體系的方式？
Debra:Of course，that makes sense.Many people，businesses，and financial markets are experiencing financial hardship due to the coronavirus.Will major businesses close?Is a serious recession ahead?Is this one of the dark agendas of this virus?Or is this the light force's way to bring about a new，healthier financial system for all?
柯博拉:它是一切的混合物。現在，所有的議程都被釋放出來，並開始運作。所以黑暗勢力並不希望經濟衰退，他們希望社會完全崩潰，而這並沒有發生。正在發生的事情是一個實際上有一個好結果的過程。這是一個過程，人們真正找到自己的價值觀，稍作停頓，稍作休息，重新評估自己的生活，稍微退出激烈的競爭—當然，這會產生一定的經濟後果，對世界經濟產生一定的影響。但是過去幾十年的經濟並不健康。以犧牲人類生活質量和人際關係為代價來獲取越來越多利益並不是一個解決方案。現在越來越多的人意識到了這一點。
Cobra:It is a mixture of everything.Now all agendas are being released and in play.So the dark forces were not hoping for a recession，they were hoping for a total collapse of the society and that's not happening.What is happening is a process which actually has a good outcome.It's a process of people really finding their values，having a pause，having a little bit of a break to re-evaluate their life to exit from the rat race a little bit—and of course this has certain economic consequences，it has a certain impact on the world economy.But the economy as it was in the last few decades was not healthy.The goals for more and more profit at expense of human quality of life，and expense of human connections，was not a solution.Now more and more people are realizing this.
Debra:在我們上次達到臨界質量的冥想中，我們明白了光明勢力現在可以更直接地干預系統。這種情況發生過嗎？
Debra:During our last meditation where we reached critical mass，we understood it that the Light Forces could now more directly intervene in the system.Has that been happening?
柯博拉:這是在幕後發生的，但還沒有公開，因為黑暗勢力仍然控制著大眾媒體。
Cobra:It is happening behind the scenes，but not publicly yet because the dark forces still control the mass media.
Debra:回到你剛才提到的用這筆錢制定的經濟刺激計劃，G20宣佈其成員國將投資5萬億美元來阻止冠狀病毒的爆發和刺激經濟。一些國家正在給那些不能去工作的人錢。光之工作者可能會將如此大量的資金與GESARA聯繫起來。所有這一切是否意味著光明勢力已經在財政重置之前釋放了一些初步的繁榮基金？
Debra:Going back to what you mentioned about the stimulus packages with this money that's being created，G20 announced that its members will invest5trillion dollars to stop the coronavirus outbreak and boost the economy.Some countries are giving money to people who cannot go to work.Lightworkers might relate such a large amount of funding to GESARA.Is all this a sign that Light Forces are already releasing some preliminary prosperity funds before the financial reset?
柯博拉:不，這和GESARA沒有關係。
Cobra:No，this has no relation to GESARA.
Debra:好吧，這筆錢對人們來說是一件好事，或者這背後的目的是什麼？
Debra:Ok，it it a positive thing that this money will be available to people or what is the agenda behind that?
柯博拉:這基本上是唯一可能發生的事情，因為如果經濟和企業得不到刺激，系統將崩潰。美聯儲別無選擇，只能釋放這些資金。他們沒有別的選擇，他們被逼到了牆角。所以在某種程度上這是一件好事，但是在另一方面，黑暗勢力正在利用這種情況來進一步鞏固他們的力量。
Cobra:It is basically the only thing that could happen because if the economy and businesses do not receive the stimulus，the system will collapse.The Federal Reserve had no other option than to release those funds.There was no other option，they were pushed to the wall.So in a way it's a good thing，but on the other hand，the dark forces are using the situation to consolidate their power even more.
所以這是一把雙刃劍。 So it's a double-edged sword.
Debra:就像這一切，對嗎？ Debra:Like all of this，right?
柯博拉:是的。 Cobra:Yes.
Debra:有沒有可能一些光之工作者開始接受來自抵抗運動或光明勢力的資金？
Debra:Is it possible yet for some lightworkers to start receiving funds from the Resistance Movement or the Light Forces?
柯博拉:不，不會在事件發生之前。
Cobra:No，not before the Event.
Debra:覺醒的社會中的一個大辯論是，川普是為"好人"工作還是為"壞人"工作。一些人相信他正在拯救世界，另一些人則認為他是黑暗議程的傀儡。到底是哪一個？
Debra:One big debate in the awakened community is whether Trump is working for the"good"guys or the"bad"guys.Some are convinced he is saving the world and others feel he is a puppet for the dark agenda.Which is it?
柯博拉:他不是在拯救世界，他也不是黑暗特工。他介於兩者之間。他有自己的議程，那就是讓美國再次偉大，讓川普再次偉大。他有顧問，其中一些是耶穌會的人，其中一些與猶太復國主義派系有更多的聯繫。他還有一些很好的顧問，他們與正面的軍方有聯繫。所以他是根據自身利益的考量，有時聽一邊，有時聽另一邊的。
Cobra:He's not saving the world and he's not a dark operative.He is somewhere in between.He has his own agenda which is to make America great again and to make Trump great again.He has advisers;some of them are Jesuits-type of people，some of them are connected more to the Zionist faction.He also has some good advisers who are connected to the positive military.So sometimes he listens to one side and sometimes to the other side according to what serves his self-interest the most.
Debra:那麼Qanon傳播光明或傳播欺騙呢？
Debra:And what about Qanon–spreading light or spreading deception?
柯博拉:這不是回答這個問題的最高目的。
Cobra:It is not the highest purpose to answer this question.
Debra:好的。讓我來問問你們，麻省理工學院(MIT)剛剛為冠狀病毒患者及其接觸者推出了定位跟蹤技術(location-trackingtechnology)，這以公共衛生的名義引發了隱私方面的擔憂，類似於在中國已經發生到驚人程度的監控和監視。這些措施是有助於阻止病毒蔓延，還是旨在使世界更接近成為一個大規模監控國家？
Debra:OK.Let me ask you about MIT just launching location-tracking technology for coronavirus patients and those they interact with，which brings up privacy concerns in the name of public health，similar to the monitoring and surveillance that has been happening in China to a frightening degree.Are these measures helpful in stopping the virus or is the purpose to bring the world one step closer to becoming a mass surveillance state?
柯博拉:再說一遍，這是一把雙刃劍。是的，這種追蹤可以幫助阻止病毒並拯救生命，但是如果出於錯誤的動機，它可以導致更大的控制和監視。
Cobra:Again，this is a double-edged sword.Yes，this kind of tracking can help stop the virus and save lives，but if done from the wrong motivation，it can lead to greater control and surveillance.
Debra:人們在談論網路和媒體關閉後的10天的黑暗;這是真的嗎？我們有大致的日期嗎？這是事件前的徵兆之一嗎？
Debra:People are talking about 10 days of darkness with the internet and media shutting down;is this true?Do we have a proximate date for this?Is this one of the signs before the Event?
柯博拉:我已經收到很多人的報告聲稱這一點，但我的高情報來源不能證實這一點。所以根據我的消息來源，這不會發生。
Cobra:I have received many reports from people claiming this，but my high intel sources are not confirming this.So according to my sources，this will not happen.
Debra:本·富爾福德說，藍色光束計劃正在進行最後一次偽造世界末日秀的嘗試。你覺得這會發生嗎？
Debra:Ben Fulford states that Project Blue Beam is in the works for a last attempt fake Armageddon show.Do you see this happening?
柯博拉:不。有些人有計劃，有些派系想要這麼做，但是這在技術上是不可行的。光明勢力有太多的力量和資源來阻止這一切的發生。所以這是不現實的。我想像不到會這樣。
Cobra:No.There are people who have plans，factions that would like to do this，but it is not technically viable.The Light Forces have too much power and too many resources to prevent this from happening.So it's not realistic.I am not expecting this.
Debra:最近在一些不尋常的地區發生了地震—這些地震是自然發生的，還是因為地下基地的清除？這些基地和奇美拉的現狀如何？
Debra:There have been earthquakes in unusual areas recently–are these natural or due to clearing of underground bases?What is the current status of these bases and the Chimera?
柯博拉:在某些情況下，它是清除地下基地。在其他情況下，它是一個很大的壓力場的能量場，因此很大的壓力在構造板塊。奇美拉直接參與了量子戰爭，他們正在失敗，這是他們在過去幾個月的主要攻勢之一，他們正在失去很多，特別是最後幾週。我不會對此做進一步的評論。
Cobra:In certain cases，it is clearing of underground bases.In other instances，it is a lot of stress to the energy field and consequently a lot of stress at tectonic plates.The Chimera group is directly involved in the quantum war and they are losing，it was one of their main offensives in the last few months and they're losing quite much，especially the last few weeks.I will not comment further on that.
Debra:好的。我們知道5G會嚴重損害免疫系統，在這場大流行計劃中扮演著關鍵角色。關於通過特斯拉星鏈（Starlink）部署計畫安裝的5G技術，這真的在進行嗎?如果是的話，我們能抵消它嗎？我們如何能夠管理這些對地球發射的有害頻率？
Debra:OK.We know that 5G seriously compromises the immune system，playing a critical role in this pandemic plan.In reference to the 5G technology being installed through Tesla star link，is this actually going ahead，and if so，can we counteract it?How are we going to be able to manage these harmful frequencies being beamed at the planet?
柯博拉:是的，這個計劃正在一定程度上得到實施。黑暗勢力正在地面和軌道上安裝5G網絡方面取得一些進展。但是光明勢力也在開發直接對抗它的技術。所以，這又是一場戰爭。
Cobra:Yes，this plan is being implemented to a certain degree.The dark forces are making some progress in installing those 5G networks on the surface and in orbit.But the Light Forces are also developing technology to counteract it directly.So again，it's a war.
Debra:我們有沒有可能通過埋藏如意寶珠來抵消5G呢？
Debra:Is it possible for us to counteract 5G by burying Cintamani stones?
柯博拉:如意寶珠可以增強你的免疫系統和能量場，所以間接地，他們將有助於在一定程度上對抗5G，但它不是一種阻止5G的技術。
Cobra:Cintamani stones can strengthen your immune system and your energy field，so indirectly they would help to a certain degree against 5G，but it's not a technology to stop 5G.
Debra:你曾經提到過，卡特里派教徒用如意寶珠打開門戶。你能解釋一下他們為什麼這麼做嗎?這些傳送門的目的是什麼？
Debra:You have mentioned in the past that the Cathars used Cintamani stones to open portals.Can you explain why they were doing this and what purpose those portals served?
柯博拉:一些高度啟蒙的卡特里派教徒，那些被啟蒙到更高等級的聖殿教徒，以及一些也被啟蒙進入神秘女神的聖殿教徒，利用這個來與非物質積極的揚升存有和揚升女神交流，比如女神愛希斯。他們使用如意寶珠創造了一個連接物理平面和更高維度的入口，他們有時相當成功。
Cobra:Some of the highly initiated，those Cathars who were initiated to higher grades of their order and some of the Templars who were also initiated into the Goddess mysteries，used this to communicate with non-physical positive ascended beings and also ascended Goddesses，such as Goddess Isis.They were using Cintamani stones to create a portal to connect the physical plane with higher dimensions and they were quite successful sometimes.
Debra:你是否建議薔薇聖女團的成員用她們的石頭打開這樣的入口？
Debra:Would you suggest that members of the Sisterhood of the Rose use their stones to open portals like this?
柯博拉:如果他們有能力而且技術熟練的話，是的。
Cobra:If they're capable and they are skilled enough，yes.
Debra:要做到這一點需要什麼技能？
Debra:What skills would be required to do this?
柯博拉:首先，他們需要對這種傳送門的工作原理有足夠的瞭解，不管是直覺上還是心理上。這是高級工作，並不適合每個人。
Cobra:First they would need to have enough understanding，both intuitively and mentally，of how this kind of portal works.This is advanced work，it's not for everybody.
Debra:過去你曾提到過，如意寶珠被放置在環繞地球的舞池中，以幫助促進主流狂歡文化中的正面外星人的接觸體驗。你能解釋一下這是怎麼回事嗎？當舞者在恍惚的狀態下跳舞時，能夠有這種接觸嗎？
Debra:In the past you mentioned that Cintamani stones are being positioned into dance floors around the planet in order to help facilitate the contact experience with positive ETs within the mainstream rave culture.Can you explain how that works?Are dancers able to have this contact when dancing in a trance state?
柯博拉:事實上，是的。曾經有一個項目，在某些恍惚的聚會上，一定數量的如意寶珠被放置在舞池周圍的神聖幾何圖案中，人們因此有了與外星人接觸的經歷。
Cobra:Actually，yes.There was a project when certain amounts of Cintamani stones were placed in sacred geometry patterns around the dance floors at certain trance parties and people were having contact experiences with positive extraterrestrial beings as a result of that field.
Debra:有意思。跳舞會增加你的交流能力嗎？
Debra:Interesting.Does dancing increase your ability to connect?
柯博拉:可以。 Cobra:It can.
Debra:現在我們正在逐步接近這個事件，我們可以用我們的聖石做一些額外的事情來增加它們的有效性嗎，比如把它們和其他強大的石頭組合起來？
Debra:Now that we are getting incrementally a closer to the Event，are there additional things we can do with our Cintamani stones to add to their effectiveness，such as pairing them up with other powerful stones?
柯博拉:沒有必要。如果你是根據你的內在指引，那麼你可以做，但是這不是如意寶珠的首要目標。
Cobra:That is not necessary.If you have your guidance，you can do it，but it is not in the primary goal of a Cintamani stone.
Debra:他們的主要目標是淨化？ Debra:Their primary goal is purification?
柯博拉:如意寶珠的主要目標是成為你自己的個人石頭，與你的高我連接，協助你的揚升過程，融化你的植入物。對於任務工作，你可以將你的石頭放置在地面行星能量網格的位置上。
Cobra:The primary goal of a Cintamani stone is to be your own personal stone to connect with your higher self，to assist your own ascension process，to melt your implants.For mission work，you can plant your stones in positions in a planetary energy grid in the ground.
Debra:你是否建議擁有一塊私人如意寶珠並在地面上像網格一樣種植它嗎？
Debra:Do you suggest having a personal stone as well as planting in the ground as a grid?
如意寶珠光網格：https://san23.pixnet.net/blog/post/65562841
柯博拉:是的。 Cobra:Yes.
Debra:說到這件事，我想問你幾個關於這件事的問題。幾個月前，你說獵戶座中的參宿四星正在變暗，這是一個很好的信號，表明我們正在接近突破。然而，科學家們現在表示，這種變暗現象似乎已經停止。它的更新是什麼？
Debra:Speaking of the Event，I'd like to ask you a few questions in reference to that.A few months ago you said that the Betelgeuse star in the Orion constellation is dimming and that this is a good indicator that we are close to the breakthrough.Yet scientists have now said it looks like the dimming has stopped.What is the update with it?
柯博拉:是的，調光停止了。這只是超新星爆發前的一個階段，但這是二元性時代結束的一個好兆頭。
Cobra:Yes，the dimming has stopped.It was just one phase before the final Supernova explosion，but it was a good sign that the time of duality is over.
Debra:所以停止變暗不是一個負面信號？
Debra:And so stopping the dimming is not a negative sign?
柯博拉:不，這意味著它只是通過了一個特定的階段，我們正在進入下一個階段。
Cobra:No，it means it just passed a certain phase and we're entering the next phase.
Debra:很好。在我們一月份的最後一次冥想中，我們很幸運地把我們推入了壓縮突破的下一個階段，成核階段的氣泡上升亞階段。這一階段的指數增長達到了頂峰，在我們的例子中，這就是事件。我們肯定正在經歷這個階段的"末日瘋狂"，但是我們如何能夠在我們的生活中體驗到更多的天堂泡沫的成長呢？
Debra:Good.In our last meditation in January we were fortunate enough to push us over the threshold into the next phase of the Compression Breakthrough，the Bubble Rising subphase of the nucleation phase.This phase has exponential growth that culminates to a boiling point，in our case，the Event.We are definitely experiencing the"end time madness"of this phase，but how can we instead experience more growth of Bubbles of Heaven in our lives?
天堂的實相泡泡：https://san23.pixnet.net/blog/post/67690797
柯博拉:為了體驗天堂泡泡，你需要遠離人群去接近大自然，因為現在絕大多數地表人類完全陷入這場大流行的戲劇。許多恐懼和程序正在被觸發。你需要離最近的人至少30碼(27.4米)遠才能體驗到天堂的實相泡泡。如果你現在想體驗天堂的實相泡泡，那麼極端的社交距離是必要的。
Cobra:For Bubble of Heaven to be experienced，you need to go to nature away from people，because now the vast majority of the surface population is completely enmeshed in this pandemic drama.A lot of fears and programs are being triggered.You need to be at least 30 yards away from the nearest human being to experience Bubbles of Heaven.Extreme social distancing is needed if you wish to experience Bubbles of Heaven right now.
Debra:我很高興你提到30碼，因為我想問的是，如果你是在一個繁華的都市，你能去一個城市公園嗎，但是那裡可能會有很多人，還是你會建議去一個離其他人30碼遠的地方？
Debra:I'm glad you mentioned 30 yards because I was going to ask，if you're in a busy city could you go into a city park，but chances are there'll be lots of people there，so you're suggesting going someplace where you're 30 yards away from other people?
柯博拉:至少。 Cobra:At least.
Debra:好建議。你能告訴我們這個階段的進展有多快，可能會持續多久嗎？人們在問，我們還能指望末日的瘋狂持續多久？我們是否仍然處在新的黃金時代的黎明之前？
Debra:Excellent advice.Can you give us an idea how quickly we are moving through this phase and how long it might last?People are asking，how long can we expect the end time madness to go on?Are we still right before the dawn of the new Golden Age?
柯博拉:我不會給出任何日期或時間框架，因為這實際上是一個事件何時發生的問題，當然，我無法回答。我認為通過描述這個泡沫的上升階段，我們已經很好地理解了我們在解放過程中的位置。
Cobra:I would not give any dates or any time frames because this is actually a question when the Event will happen，which of course，I cannot answer.I think by describing this Bubble Rising phase，we have a pretty good understanding of where we are in the liberation process.
Debra:冠狀病毒大流行是否延緩了這一階段的進展?4月4日/5日的冥想若是成功是否會加速這一階段的進展？
Debra:Has the coronavirus pandemic slowed this phase down?Will a successful meditation on April 4/5 speed this phase up?
柯博拉:實際上，冠狀病毒的流行已經加速了這一事件的進程，因為光明勢力在阻止病毒的努力中已經加速了血漿層的清除，以至於這一事件基本上會比預期的更早發生。
Cobra:Actually the coronavirus pandemic has accelerated the process towards the Event because the Light Forces in their effort to stop the virus have accelerated the clearing of the plasma plane so much that the Event will basically happen sooner than expected.
Debra:哦，太好了!我相信我們的冥想也會對此有所幫助！
Debra:Oh wonderful!And I'm sure our meditation will help that along as well!
柯博拉:是的，是的。 Cobra:Yes，yes.
Debra:在去年台北舉行的揚升會議的記錄中表明，除了正在拆除的上層炸彈外，地表人類需要在事件發生前做好準備。需要什麼樣的準備，這和即將到來的冥想有什麼關係？
Debra:In the notes for the Ascension Conference in Taipei last year，it indicates that in addition to the toplet bombs being removed，the surface population needs to be ready before the Event can happen.What kind of readiness is needed and does it have to do with this upcoming meditation?
柯博拉:實際上，通過這次全球隔離訓練，地表人類已經達到了這種準備狀態。這種訓練，這種經驗，已經證明地表人類已經準備好了。因此，當一切準備就緒，地表人類將能夠應對這一事件，實際上將能夠比最初預期的更好地應對"事件"，這是全球所有大規模封鎖的結果。
Cobra:Actually，the surface population had achieved this readiness with this global quarantine training.This training，this experience，has proved that the surface population is ready.So when everything else is ready，the surface population will be able to handle the Event—actually will be able to handle the Event better than it was originally expected，so this is the good news as a result of all those mass lockdowns around the planet.
什麼是"事件"：https://san23.pixnet.net/blog/post/58559857
Debra:哇，耶～人性！光明勢力是否對每個光之工作者或人類進行心理評估？如果這個評估不令人滿意，它會影響事件/提升時間線嗎？或者，就像你剛才說的，我們在某種程度上證明自己已經準備好了？
Debra:Wow，yay humanity!Do the Light Forces conduct a psychological assessment of each lightworker or human being?And if this assessment is not satisfactory，will it affect the Event/ascension timeline?Or，as you just said，we were sort of proving ourselves as being ready?
柯博拉:我想說，關鍵的光之工作者在關鍵時刻的行為肯定會對時間線產生相當大的影響。這在過去已經被證明了很多次。有些人已經徹底改善了狀況，然而有些人本來可以改善狀況，卻徹底搞砸了。所以這兩種情形都發生了很多次。當然，光明勢力會對關鍵人物進行心理評估。他們必須不斷調整他們的計劃，他們計劃的某些方面，因為他們的大多數計劃並不依賴於地表人類，但有某些方面是。他們需要對某些關鍵人物的行動進行評估，並在一定程度上不斷調整自己的計劃。
Cobra:I would say the behavior of key lightworkers in key moments can definitely influence the timeline quite much.It has been proven many times in the past.Certain people have drastically improved the situation，while certain people who could have improved the situation have，to put it mildly，completely screwed up.So both things did happen a lot.Light Forces，of course，have psychological evaluations of key people.They have to constantly adapt their plans，certain aspects of their plans because most of their plans are not dependent on the surface population，but certain aspects of them are.They need to evaluate and constantly adapt their plans regarding the actions of certain key people to a certain degree.
Debra:會不會有一些星際種子和光之工作者臨時到飛船上去接受事件之前的訓練和治療？
Debra:Will some starseeds and lightworkers be going up to ships temporarily for training and healing prior to the Event?
柯博拉:不是身體上的，但是在你的夢裡。你可能已經在母艦上有一個不錯的經歷了。
Cobra:Not physically，but in your dreams.you might have a nice experience on the motherships already.
Debra:它是如何決定誰會有這些經歷的？
Debra:How is it determined who will have these experiences?
柯博拉:那些已經準備好的和那些將會，當然，協助行星解放計劃的人。這並不奇怪。它是以使命為導向的。
Cobra:Those who are ready and those who will，of course，assist in the plan of the planetary liberation.This is not a curious thing.It's mission-oriented.
Debra:如果這發生在我們身上，我們還會記得這一切嗎？
Debra:If this happened to us，would we have recollection of this happening?
柯博拉:視情況而定。有些人會有記憶，有些人不會。為了安全起見，在你回到物理身體之前，記憶的某些方面會被移除。
Cobra:Depending on the case.Some people would have recollections，some would not.Certain aspects of memory would be removed before you come back into the physical body for security purposes.
Debra:很多人都夢見自己在船上或者看到幻象。
Debra:A lot of people are having dreams about being on ships or visions.
柯博拉:沒錯，是的。 Cobra:Exactly，yes.
Debra:我想問問你揚升的事。這扇窗到2025年會關上嗎？
Debra:I'd like to ask you about ascension.Does this window still close in 2025?
柯博拉:正如我所說的，"事件"預計將在2025年底之前發生。這是我們的目標。
Cobra:As I said，the Event is expected to happen before the end of 2025.That is the goal.
Debra:事件，但不一定是揚升。 Debra:The Event，but not necessarily Ascension.
柯博拉:揚升是一個過程，不是一夜之間就能實現的。
Cobra:Ascension is a process.It is not something that would happen overnight.
Debra:是的。計劃還是要有三波揚升嗎？
Debra:Right.Is the plan still to have three waves of ascension?
柯博拉:是的。 Cobra:Yes.
Debra:事件發生多久後第一波會發生？
Debra:How long after the event will the first wave occur?
柯博拉:預計，我會說，一兩年後的事件。
Cobra:It is expected，I would say，one or two years after the Event.
Debra:我知道我們現在都在揚升的進程中，但是你是說有些波可能在2025年之後發生？
Debra:I know we're all in the Ascension process right now，but you're saying some of these waves could potentially happen after 2025?
柯博拉:是的，有可能。 Cobra:Yes，it's possible.
Debra:我們能不能做點什麼來加快速度？
Debra:Is there anything we can do to speed that up closer?
柯博拉:正如我所說的，現在重要的是參與大規模的全球冥想。合作也很重要，特別是對於光之工作者和光戰士來說，要合作而不是互相爭鬥。
Cobra:As I have said，what is important now is to participate in mass meditations.It is also important，especially for the lightworkers and lightwarriors，is to cooperate and don't fight with each other.
當然，我已經重複了成百上千次。很多人都聽不進去，所以我甚至不知道為什麼我還要回答這樣的問題。
Of course，I have repeated that hundreds and hundreds of times.Many are not listening to this，so I don't know even why I should answer questions like this anymore.
Debra:哈，是吧？光之工作者每天能做些什麼來幫助顯化事件時間線，為事件、為揚升做好準備？你提到接近大自然、冥想，你還有什麼建議嗎？
Debra:Ha，right?Is there anything lightworkers can do on a daily basis to help manifest the Event timeline，to prepare themselves for the Event，for ascension?You mentioned going in nature，meditating—is there anything else you can suggest?
柯博拉:我要說的是傾聽自己內在更高層次的指引，並真正付諸行動。不要只有一個理論概念。真正與你的高我聯繫起來，當你得到你的內在指引時，就去做吧。
Cobra:I would say listen to their higher guidance and really act upon it.Do not have just a theoretical concept.Really connect with your higher self，and when you get your guidance，do it.
Debra:那改變我們的恐懼和陰影呢?這項工作現在很重要，對吧？
Debra:What about transmuting our fears and shadows?That work is quite important to do right now，right?
柯博拉:是的。關於轉化陰影，我想說的是對自己要真誠。不要欺騙自己。承認一些事情，然後你就有機會改變它。
Cobra:Yes.Regarding transmuting shadows，I would say be sincere with yourself.Do not lie to yourself.Admit things to yourself，and then you will have the opportunity to transmute it.
Debra:如果我們在做深度創傷治療工作，我們如何繼續保持光明？
Debra:How do we continue to hold the light if we are doing deep trauma healing work?
柯博拉:實際上，由於深度創傷癒合的結果，總是會有更多的光出現。因此，當你處於一個清理過程中，你可能會覺得一切都是黑暗的，沒有希望的，沒有光明的。但是當你堅持下去，你只是這個過程的見證者，你不需要認同這個過程，只是堅持下去，你就會發現，每當你清除一層創傷，你的內心就會有更多的光明出現。
Cobra:Actually，as a result of deep trauma healing work，more light always comes.So when you're in the middle of a clearing process，it might feel that everything is dark and there is no hope and there is no light.But after you just persevere and you are just a witness to the process and you don't identify yourself with the process and just persevere，you will discover that each time you clear one layer of trauma，more light is present within you.
Debra:如果你有被壓抑的創傷記憶呢？是否有必要讓這些記憶被完全揭示以獲得療癒？
Debra:What about if you have repressed memories of trauma?Is it necessary for those memories to be revealed to fully heal?
柯博拉:我要說的是，一定數量的臨界記憶需要被還回去。我不會說明每一個細節，但是你需要對你的時間線有一個基本的瞭解，你的生活是如何過去的，發生了什麼。
Cobra:I would say a certain critical mass of memory needs to be given back.I will not say every particular detail，but you need to have a basic understanding of your timeline of how your life went and what happened.
Debra:有沒有什麼方法可以進入這些被壓抑的記憶？
Debra:Is there a way to access some of these repressed memories?
柯博拉:是的，有很多方法可以訪問它們，但我不會詳細說明。這是一個合格的治療師可以討論的問題。
Cobra:Yes，there are many ways to access them，but I will not go into detail.This is something for a qualified therapist to discuss.
Debra:好吧，我明白了。這個問題已經收到好幾次了，我想問的是，自從我母親最近過世以來。對非物質層面上的人類靈魂來說，現在的事情是不是變得不那麼具有挑戰性了，因為那些非物質層面上的負面實體已經被加速清除了？在事件發生前死去的人怎麼辦？
Debra:OK，I understand.This question was received several times，and I would like to ask it since my mother recently transitioned.Are things less challenging now for the human souls on the non-physical planes since the clearance of negative entities on those planes has been accelerated?What happens to those who die before the Event?
柯博拉:是的，高層等離子的狀況有所改善。現在沒有以前那麼黑暗了。所以，對於那些已經脫離物質生活的人來說，現在情況正在逐步好轉。
Cobra:Yes，conditions on higher planes have improved.It is not as dark as it was.So for those who have transitioned from the physical existence，now things are getting progressively better.
Debra:他們是回到了輪迴週期，還是一直被扣留到事件發生?
Debra:Are they going back into the reincarnation cycle or are they kind of being held until the Event?
柯博拉:我會說他們中的一小部分選擇再次化身或者他們被欺騙/說服再次化身，這取決於他們的位置。但是他們中的大多數都停留在更高的層面上，等待著轉變的發生。
Cobra:I would say a small percentage of them chooses to incarnate again or they are tricked/persuaded to incarnate again，depending on their position.But most of them are staying on higher planes，waiting for the transition to occur.
Debra:好的，太好了。許多人正在經歷身體問題。他們往往感到疲倦或情緒失控，有些人有心悸或失眠。這些是揚升前能量清理的症狀，還是攻擊？我們能做些什麼來處理這些問題？
Debra:OK，wonderful.Many people are experiencing physical problems.They tend to feel tired or emotionally out of control，some have heart palpitations or insomnia.Are these symptoms of energy cleanup before ascension，or are they attacks?What can we do to deal with these issues?
柯博拉:這是所有這一切的結合。現在仍然有植入、生物芯片、標量技術和實體。但是也有一個淨化過程正在進行，所以這一切都會對身體產生影響。再一次，這裡的關鍵之一是花一些時間在自然中，因為這樣你可以重新連接純粹的水晶能量，並且可以幫助你的能量場和你的物質身體。
Cobra:It's a combination of all of this.There are still implants，biochips，scalar technology，and entities.But there's also a purification process taking place，so all this has an impact on the physical body.Again，one of the keys here is to spend some time in nature because then you can reconnect with the pure crystalline energy and can help both your energy field and your physical body.
Debra:那就到外面去，人們！我知道我們今天談了很多，但我還有幾個關於《薔薇聖女團》的問題。一個經常出現的問題是，如果薔薇聖女團的所在地區已經封鎖，她們如何繼續舉行每週例會？
Debra:So get outside people!I know we've talked about a lot today，but I just have a few more questions regarding Sisterhood of the Rose.One question that has come up very often is how can Sisterhood of the Rose groups continue to hold weekly meetings if their area is in lockdown?
柯博拉:當然，在這種情況下，你顯然不能在物質層面上舉行聚會。但是我們能做什麼呢？我們仍然可以通過Skype、Zoom或者其他你可以連接的方式開會。
Cobra:Of course now in a situation like this，you cannot have physical things obviously.But what can we do?We still can have meetings on Skype，Zoom，or whatever you're using to connect.
Debra:那麼，在這些虛擬會議上，我們還能做些什麼來保持我們的影響力和維持女神漩渦呢？
Debra:So doing these virtual meetings，is there something additional we can do to keep our impact strong and maintain the Goddess vortex?
柯博拉:你可以使用與物理會議相同的協議。
Cobra:You can use the same protocol as for the physical meetings.
Debra:好的。我們仍然可以保持漩渦活躍，並繼續我們的工作嗎？
Debra:OK.And we'll still be able to keep the vortex active and still continue to do our work?
柯博拉:是的，是的。 Cobra:Yes，yes.
Debra:薔薇聖女團能做些什麼來穩定最積極的揚升時間線並終止冠狀病毒的爆發？
Debra:What can Sisterhood of the Rose groups do to stabilize the most positive ascension timeline and terminate the coronavirus outbreak?
柯博拉:參與者需要的是調用女神能量。不僅在冥想的時刻，而且在日常生活中傳播正面積極的女神原則，無論他們走到哪裡。
Cobra:What is necessary for the participants is to invoke Goddess energy.Not just in the moment of meditation，but also in daily life to spread positive Goddess principles wherever they go.
Debra:哦，我喜歡那個，我喜歡那個！有沒有什麼特別的揚升大師或女神我們應該去幫助的？
Debra:Oh I love that，I love that!Are there any particular Ascended masters or Goddesses we should call upon to assist?
柯博拉:這取決於你。 Cobra:It is up to you.
Debra:好吧，我們可以訪問所有這些網站，所以你的意思是如果你有私人聯繫可以訪問這些網站。在這個世界上，我們能做些什麼來吸引靈魂家族來到我們身邊...或者這會一直是一個挑戰，直到事件發生之後？
Debra:OK，we have access to all of them，so you're saying if you have a personal connection to call upon those.What can we do to attract Soul families to us in this current world…or will this prove to continue to be a challenge until after the Event?
柯博拉:你可以使用女神漩渦冥想，這也可以吸引你的靈魂伴侶和靈魂家族。但不幸的是，在事件發生之前，這些人中的許多人都妥協了。他們沒有被喚醒，他們受到控制。這被證明是一個挑戰，直到事件發生的那一刻。
Cobra:You can use the Goddess vortex meditation which can also attract your soulmates and soul families.But unfortunately before the Event，many of those people are compromised.They are not awakened and they are under control.It proves to be a challenge until the moment of the Event to a great degree.
Debra:最後一個問題，柯博拉。你說過，"我們所知道的世界已經結束了。"你能分享哪些可以減少我們當前和潛在的對未來的恐懼，減少我們在這個末日瘋狂時期所面臨的挑戰和混亂，的希望和鼓舞的話語？
Debra:And one last question，Cobra.You have said that，"The world as we know it has ended."What words of encouragement can you share that would decrease our fear regarding current—and potential future—challenges and chaos that we are facing during this end time madness，words of hope and inspiration?
柯博拉:你可以把目前的流行疫情看作是一個全球性的淨化過程。人類作為一個整體必須面對他們的恐懼。人類幾乎完全否認一切。現在正在發生的是承認真相。人類正面對著一面鏡子，這是一次極具療癒性的經歷，儘管它是相當具有挑戰性的，但其結果將是一個更加健康的社會。這樣做的結果將是為真正扎根、平衡的水瓶座時代打下基礎，這也是我們所有人都想要的。
Cobra:You can see this current epidemic situation as a global purification process.Humanity as a whole has to face their fears.Humanity was almost completely in denial about almost everything.What is happening now is acknowledging the truth.Humanity is facing the mirror which is an extremely healing experience，although it is quite challenging，the result of this will be a much healthier society.The result of this will be the foundation will be laid for the real grounded，balanced Age of Aquarius，and this is what we all want.
Debra:當然！再說一次，我們的冥想將在4月4日和5日到來，請檢查你的時區。柯博拉，我們很高興達到臨界質量實際上讓我們達到一百萬人參與這個冥想，好嗎？
Debra:Absolutely!And again，our meditation is coming up April 4th and 5th，check your time zone for that.Cobra，we're excited to reach critical mass—actually let's reach a million people for this meditation，yes?
柯博拉:是的，讓我們達到一百萬人，為什麼不呢？一切皆有可能。一百萬人在冥想，那會很棒的。這將是光明勢力看到的一個標誌，一個美麗的標誌，表明我們已經為下一步做好了準備。
Cobra:Yes，let's reach one million people，why not?Everything is possible.One million people meditating，that will be awesome.This will be something that the Light Forces will see as a sign，a beautiful sign，that we are ready for the next step.
Debra:當然，而且我們可以在宇宙歷史的這個重要時刻扮演一個非常非常重要的角色！
Debra:Absolutely，and we can play a very，very important role during this very important time in the history of the universe!
柯博拉:是的，沒錯。 Cobra:Yes，Exactly.
Debra:好吧，今天非常感謝你，柯博拉，我們非常喜歡這個，並感謝所有的信息和...光的勝利，謝謝你！
Debra:Alright well，thank you so much today Cobra，we have enjoyed this very much and appreciate all of the information and…Victory of the Light，thank you!
柯博拉:光的勝利！
Cobra:Victory of the Light!
—記錄完畢— —End of transcript—
最後，這裡有一個簡短的宣傳影片，關於這個由薔薇聖女團創造的冥想。
Finally，here is a short promotional video for this meditation created by the Sisterhood of the Rose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7uIDp8m6g
光的勝利！ Victory of the Light!
來源：https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2020/04/ascension-timeline-end-of-coronavirus-meditation-interview-with-cobra-by-the-sisterhood-of-the-rose.html
https://www.pfcchina.org/cobraft/37224.html
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